Li Hongzhi
Sydney, May 2–3, 1999
Hello everyone! (Applause)
In a flash it has already been a
year or two since I last came to Sydney. The last time I came was during a Fa
conference. At that time there were not as many students and the study of Dafa
was limited to Chinese people. Now there are more people, and after a period of
cultivation, I feel that you are able to understand the Fa from within the Fa.
As you go about your cultivation you are sure to have many questions to ask and
would like to receive answers to them. I felt that by coming to the conference
at this time, I could truly answer some questions and resolve some issues for
you. The timing was very good, so I decided to come and meet with everyone.
During this
period of cultivation the situation in Australia has been relatively good. Even
though there are still some less than clear understandings regarding the
Fa-principles in cultivation, the overall situation is good. Today I mostly
want to see everyone and discuss a few problems along the way. So, after I
finish speaking today, I will mainly listen to your speeches, and then tomorrow
I will use the time in the afternoon to answer your questions. You can write
down whatever questions you have on slips of paper and pass them to the
Conference Affairs Team who will then give them to me, and I will answer them
for you.
There is a condition for answering
the questions. I am here to answer questions for students of Falun Dafa
regarding their cultivation, not to answer questions about things that happen
in ordinary human society or other questions about human society. These
questions I cannot answer, because currently I am responsible only to my
cultivators, and I don’t want to get involved in any country’s politics,
policies, or laws and regulations. As I go about this undertaking I have to be
responsible to people, and, at the same time, I have to take into consideration
being responsible to society. The development of ordinary human society is predetermined
and progressing according to its law, and I don’t want to get involved in those
things.
Next let’s discuss a few issues.
Everyone knows that wherever I meet with students, I always talk about one
subject, namely, I tell everyone to read the book more and study the Fa more.
Even though everyone knows I’ll talk about it, I will still discuss it, because
if you want to improve in Dafa, reading the book and studying the Fa is of
utmost importance. If you treat the Dafa that I’m spreading today as a common,
ordinary qigong, then you are making a horrendous mistake. If you want
to have a healthy body, then you can go to the hospital to have your health
problems treated, or you can get treatment through other medical means. I think
that if your health is your only concern, then you can just go to them for
medical treatment. I don’t do healings. I am leading you down a righteous path
of cultivation practice, and want you to walk down a bright path. Making money
off of Dafa by doing healings is not allowed. I am leading you down the purest
path. In order to truly ascend through cultivation, one must persist in
studying the Fa.
I have said that matter and mind
are one thing. The issue of whether matter comes first or mind comes first has
been constantly discussed and argued for a long time in philosophical circles
around the world. I have given you many examples. We now know that the thought
generated when people think or contemplate an issue manifests as matter. Then
isn’t that what mind is? That is to say, matter and mind are one thing. The
entire cosmos, from the most microscopic to the most macroscopic, from the
smallest to the biggest, and particles of all matter, all contain one special
quality, namely Zhen, Shan, Ren. Then this Zhen, Shan, Ren—the characteristic
of the cosmos—restricts every aspect of every thing at the different levels of
the cosmos. Matter is in fact composed of this non-material special quality.
Matter and mind are, therefore, one and the same.
Some people have a wrong
understanding. They say, “When I practice qigong I just practice qigong,
and there’s no need to elevate my xinxing or read books.” This is the
most crucial problem that I will tell you about. With that thinking a person
will never be able to elevate, and it’s not possible for someone to become
illness-free by just practicing a few qigong movements. Even many
ordinary people in mainland China understand this. If you don’t study the Fa or
read the book, don’t understand the underlying principles, cannot make your
moral standard re-ascend, cannot improve your xinxing and become a good
and better person, then you will have illnesses.[1]
Because humans are all this way, and humans will in fact have illnesses, only
when you surpass everyday people will you be truly free of illnesses. So it’s
not possible to surpass everyday people by just practicing a few movements or
so. Only by truly understanding the Fa-principles, elevating your mind and
realm, becoming a better person—a good person who has surpassed everyday
people, that is to say, an extraordinary person—will you not be afflicted with
the illnesses that everyday people should be afflicted with. That’s the
principle. I just talked about how only through becoming a better person and
surpassing the average, everyday person of today can you truly be free of
illness. Then, if you want to cultivate to higher realms, shouldn’t there be a
yet higher requirement? Being free of illness does not equate to being someone
who is cultivating in high realms, but rather, it just means you’re someone who
is at a higher moral level than everyday people. What I ask you to do is to
surpass everyday people, to ascend even higher—that is to say, to be an even
better person, a person with higher moral values. Only in this way can you
ascend through cultivation practice.
Currently some practitioners who
are not of Chinese descent don’t place much emphasis on studying the Fa and
don’t understand it very well. What I have just said may have cleared things up
for you. Because qigong movements are just a supplementary method of
cultivation, they absolutely do not play a fundamental role. If your xinxing
doesn’t ascend and your realm has not elevated to a higher realm, no matter how
much you do the exercise movements you won’t ascend. Only when your xinxing
has reached a standard of a certain height can you achieve improvement and be
free of illness. Only when you hold yourself to higher, better requirements can
you become someone who has surpassed everyday people and who is thus no longer
an everyday person. That’s because with people in conventional society, their
thoughts, actions, and deeds, as everyone can see, are for their own selfish
benefit. They are extremely selfish, even to the point of using any means
necessary for the sake of personal gain. Also, this is a period of very
degenerate moral values. If you are the same as an everyday person, can you be
healed of illness through just doing exercises? There’s no chance! If you are
the same as ordinary people, can you become an extraordinary person through
just practicing movements? It’s absolutely impossible. So, everyone must read
the book! The reason is, when your spiritual realm and thinking haven’t reached
that high of a standard, your illnesses won’t be cured, and nor will you reach
a high realm. That’s why I tell everyone to read the book more, and talk about
the essential need to read the book.
The Fa can guide you to improve at
different levels. The book, Zhuan Falun, is a book that enables everyone
to practice systematically, so it is of utmost importance. Regardless of
whether you are a cultivator or not, reading Zhuan Falun will enable you
to understand how to behave. That is because today’s humankind is not
restrained by any moral standards, and has gone against tradition and ancient
ways of thinking. The more importance people place on the reality in front of
them, the more they are letting go of man’s original nature—things that are the
most innate and best. People without moral restraint act however they want to
act, and that can’t be allowed. The degeneration of humankind has already put
man in dire danger. Later in the lecture I will explain and answer questions
about this for you all.
Next I will talk about a few
specific problems. When practicing among everyday people, oftentimes one has many
attachments that can’t be let go of; this is talking about specific issues in
cultivation. Many people just don’t let go of their attachments, and even when
they have caused the persons to be infatuated and unclear of mind, they still
don’t realize it. In thousands of years nobody has truly talked about how to
really cultivate. Everyone knows that cultivation involves sitting with the
legs crossed. As you know, there are many older women in rural China who sit on
their beds year round, sewing clothes and mending cloth shoes. If it were as
simple as [sitting all the time], then I’d say they should all become gods.
That posture is merely a supplementary method. If you aren’t doing cultivation
exercises and just sitting with legs crossed, then even more so it amounts to
nothing, for there isn’t even an element of cultivation then. So, I tell you to
understand the Fa-principles and read the book as you go about cultivating. The
goal is for you to elevate to even higher realms. How do you elevate? It is
through your letting go of the bad thoughts you have amidst everyday people,
and letting go of the competitive mentality of everyday people, for example.
For the sake of petty, insignificant gain, people harm others. Overjoyed with a
little gain and pained with a little loss, unable to eat or sleep well because
of this and afflicted with ailments from head to toe, what a tiring life you
lead! Do humans exist in this world merely for this?
Now that everyone has seen this
point clearly, then why can’t you truly let go of your attachments as a
cultivator does? Be a cultivator openly and with dignity. I have often said
that as a person cultivating in a righteous Fa, the first thing you must
achieve is to not fight back when being punched or insulted. Then why is it that
when you encounter conflicts in cultivation, you just can’t let go of that
attachment? When others say things about you that aren’t pleasant to hear, why
do you become unhappy? When you become unhappy, aren’t you in your heart
refusing to accept the chance to cultivate and improve? Aren’t you simply
seeking the same kind of happiness that everyday people do? Then aren’t you an
everyday person?! At that moment you should think, “Why am I unhappy? When
others criticize me, I become unhappy—aren’t I pursuing something?” But while
wanting everyone to be nice to you and to live a pleasant life among ordinary
people, how are you going to improve? Without letting go of any human things,
how can you improve and elevate? For exactly that reason you cannot improve and
elevate. You have to truly let go of these things—attachments that humans
cannot let go of.
But regarding this Dafa that you
are cultivating today, I took fully into account how people with normal jobs in
society could cultivate while still in the world today. So while cultivating
Dafa you can have your job, you can have your business, and you can have all of
your family life and social activities. The spreading and cultivation form of
Dafa within ordinary society won’t impede your cultivation; I fully considered
this. The Dafa I am imparting directly targets the mind and your attachments
are to be eliminated amidst material gain, but you won’t necessarily lose out
materially. That’s because I see that matter itself doesn’t really mean
anything. If you are extremely rich and your house is even built with bricks of
gold, and yet you don’t hold it dear in your heart but instead take it lightly,
then I would say that it’s a case of having no attachment to material wealth.
That is to say, Dafa’s requirement is the changing of a person’s thinking, not
having you let go of physical things. Of course, regarding tests of one’s
thoughts, this type of serious test must occur in order to see how strong your
pursuit of material gain is and to see what types of things you see as
important. Everyone knows that among our Dafa disciples, there are business
people and even ones who are involved in big business. They are cultivators,
and they are good people in their working places. They don’t lie or deceive
people, yet their businesses do very well. They also don’t devote themselves
like everyday people—to the point of not being able to eat or sleep well—but
they all do very well in business matters. This current period of economic
recession especially highlights what distinguishes cultivators. Extraordinary
things like this will come about when a person reaches the standard for
cultivation.
What I just talked about was
attachments that obstruct cultivation. When many of you, my students, have run
into conflicts and become angry, did you think about the fact that your anger
was directed at everyday people? Think about it: Buddhas and Gods—those
magnificent enlightened beings—would they get angry with humans? Absolutely
not. That’s because they are not at the level of humans and don’t have emotion
(qing) as do everyday people. How could they position themselves among
everyday people? When you deal with conflicts the same way as everyday people,
you are then at the same level, or in the same realm, as everyday
people. That is to say, you are one of the everyday people. Only when
you are not like them are you not one of them. Of course then, what you will
display will be tolerance and an immense capacity to forgive. Everyday people
will see it this way, but in fact it is the manifestation of your xinxing
level in cultivation. So, regardless of the setting or circumstances in which
you run into problems, you must maintain a compassionate and merciful heart in
handling everything. If you cannot love your enemy, then you cannot reach Consummation.
(Applause) Then why is it that when an ordinary person angers you, you
cannot forgive him?! And instead you argue and fight with him like an everyday
person? Doesn’t this also hold true for the interactions among practitioners?
Once the principles are taught to
all of you, you understand them. What I tell you are Fa-principles, and what I
have made known to you is precisely the book of Fa. As for how well it is put
into action, that’s completely up to how well you cultivate. Of course I can help
you, but that mostly doesn’t manifest in the human world, and many people can’t
see it. In cultivation it is of utmost importance to study the book of Fa well.
It will help you to eliminate the attachments that you cannot let go of,
including the worst parts.
You shouldn’t believe that your
notions are you. There are many people who, when reading Dafa, read with a type
of notion. Such a person believes, “Ah, this section is good… Hmm, that section
I don’t understand very well... Oh, I don’t think this section is up to par.”
Let me tell you, you think that you’re quite smart, you think that your
judgment is correct, but in fact it is a horrendous mistake. Your mindset was
formed in this everyday people’s society, and so your standard for evaluating
good and bad is the standard of everyday people, and it can’t possibly be
superior to that of ordinary humans, and so this prevents you from seeing the
true essence of the Fa. It is your attachments that have obstructed your
obtaining the Fa. You are picking out parts that you think are good to read,
and you are not doing true cultivation. That’s because when you see parts that
you think are not good or that you think you don’t want to read, it is
precisely your postnatally acquired bad habits of mind and bad thoughts at
work. But that is not the real you, though you treat it as if it were.
Why is this the case? Think about
it everyone, when a child is born, he doesn’t have any of the notions everyday
people do. I have said that the celestial eye of a child under the age of six
can see things after I utter just one sentence. Why is that so? It’s because he
has not formed anything conceptual from ordinary society, and because he is
pure and in compliance with the cosmos’s primordial standard of Zhen, Shan,
Ren. Once you have accumulated so-called worldly “experience,” acquired
frameworks for thinking, extolled them as savvy and grown experienced among
everyday people, you have in fact changed yourself to something quite bad. And
it is precisely those notions that render you fully incompatible with the true
state, essence, and absolute truth of the cosmos. Since you formed those things
postnatally, how could they be you? What is the meaning of “returning to one’s
original, true self”? You have to cleanse yourself, and that is so that you can
return to your purest, most righteous, prenatal state—one that has no notions
when thinking takes place. That state is the wisest, and it allows a person to
see everything in the world clearly. The reason is, when you don’t have any notions,
your vision will encompass everything, and you can know what everything in the
world is about with one glance. That is wisdom. When you instead look at things
holding on to your frameworks, you will be trapped within them. But your
frameworks are not the absolute truth. You might feel that your knowledge is
quite advanced and your standards of evaluation are correct, but in fact they
are not correct. Even when I speak this way, you might not be able to
immediately understand, recognize, or agree with my point. Only if you can
really put your mind to studying the book Zhuan Falun will you be able
to see what that book of mine truly is!
Why is it that there are so many
people studying [Falun Gong] in China and all over the world? In China alone
there are nearly 100 million people studying, and many of them are scientists,
top notch intellectuals, social scientists, thinkers, those involved in
philosophical inquiry, and even high-ranking cadres. Outside China there are so
many who have a Ph.D. or Masters degree, graduate students, and professors
studying [the practice]. Are all of them dumb? And notably, in Chinese society
the people have experienced so much, believed in certain ways of thinking, gone
through the Cultural Revolution, and previously idolized persons without
thinking. The lessons learned were profound. They have experienced everything
imaginable. Could people like that be asked to believe in something blindly?!
Then how is it they are learning the Fa, and why are they so steadfast? Doesn’t
this tell you something? It’s because I tell all of them to be good people, to
be better, extraordinary people, healthy people, people of higher morality, all
the way until they become people who can achieve Consummation. It’s not like a
few words from me, Li Hongzhi, can cause people to follow me irrationally.
Everyone knows that Dafa is loosely organized. If you want to learn it, you can
learn it. If you don’t want to learn, you can freely return to wherever you
came from. I will do nothing. There are no restrictions, nor any form of
organization, and nor will you be asked for a single penny. Why do all of you
gather together here, to the point where you wouldn’t leave for anything? These
people have their own thinking and intellect, don’t they? Then why can’t
certain people let go of their notions and truly take a look at this book? Take
a look at what Li Hongzhi is doing? Why are there so many people in the world
who are studying this book? After reading it perhaps you will understand what I
am doing.
When I first began to impart this
Fa I had a really major concern. As you all know, in today’s human society, no
religion can enable people’s minds and humanity’s moral standards to re-ascend.
Those involved with religion know this too, yet there is nothing at all they
can do about it. And there’s more to it: in the world today there is not a
single set of teachings or collection of principles that can enable humankind’s
morality to re-ascend, enable man’s moral values to become noble again, much
less enable humans to re-ascend to the point of Consummation. There is nothing
else like this in the entire world. Then in that case, mankind is in an
extremely dangerous situation. If the Dafa that I am imparting today couldn’t
save people, then people would be forever beyond redemption, for there is no Fa
higher than the one that created the cosmos. When humans don’t have righteous
thoughts and are without the constraint of morality, they will dare to do any
wicked deed. The gods won’t allow it. You’ve all heard something—be it from
religions or prophecies or some form of precognition, by books or by word of
mouth—talking about mankind facing some sort of catastrophe. Think about it
everyone, if mankind were to continue to decline as it has, wouldn’t it be
dangerous? Even if gods did not come to punish humankind, humankind would kill itself
off. In fact humankind is already destroying itself, even destroying itself
when there is no war—destroying itself unknowingly. The pollution resulting
from the development of science and technology has harmed the natural
environment, and in the future the water would all be contaminated; mankind’s
science and technology has no way to return water to its original degree of
purity. Even the food that you eat is grown at an accelerated pace by using
chemical fertilizers. Think about it, if mankind were to continue on like this
it would become warped in both form and appearance. If human beings replicate
human beings, then people will have truly begun to destroy man himself. Aliens
wearing the skins of humans would be replicated en masse, occupying the bodies
of humans. The future human race, originating from this type of people, would
continue to replicate man more and more, and in the end replace man entirely.
Of course, I can see clearly all
problems in the world, and I can disclose all of humankind’s problems. I am not
at present imparting this Fa for the sake of these problems that human society
faces. I am talking about these things so that cultivators can obtain the Fa
and ascend. That’s the reason for my doing this.
I’ve just discussed one problem,
and next I will talk about another specific problem. We have some people who as
they go about cultivating hold on to attachments and won’t let go. This causes
the conflicts they face to grow worse and the hardships they need to overcome
during their cultivation greater, rendering them unable to surmount them. There
are such people sitting among us here. This in turn causes them to turn to the
opposite side, bearing a grievance against Dafa—or even bearing a grievance
against me. Why aren’t others like you? Are these 100 million or so people all
idiots? Why don’t you think about what led you to that state? There are some
who have studied Dafa and who I’ve told to be upright, righteous persons, to be
good persons, and not to do bad things, and yet they still go and gamble. After
they lose their money they turn around and blame Dafa. Did I tell you to
gamble? Just the opposite: I told you that you shouldn’t go gamble and not to
do those bad things.
There are also people that
practice Dafa and who blame Dafa when they suddenly suffer some sort of
unexpected harm. Have you thought about how I also gave such an illustration of
that in Zhuan Falun: there was a person who suddenly fell ill one day
after learning Dafa, as if he had symptoms of a cerebral thrombosis. Half of
his body became unresponsive and half of his brain was paralyzed. However, he
was able to walk by the next day, and he had basically recovered quite well
after one week. Afterwards he told practitioners at the practice site: I
practiced Dafa to the point of semi-paralysis; I won’t practice anymore. Think
about it everyone, if he didn’t practice Dafa, would he have recovered from his
partial paralysis so quickly? You know what his partial paralysis was all
about, and yet he blamed Dafa. Some people need to think about this seriously.
You met with that hardship, and you said that Teacher didn’t protect you. Do
you realize that if I didn’t protect you, it wouldn’t have been an injury to your
body but most likely the loss of your life! Do you realize that? I have reduced
that much, yet you still turn around and blame Dafa. That is the state of
ignorance man is in, and he is very hard to save. He doesn’t want to repay the
debt that he himself incurred while in the cosmos. He wants to be free of any
hardship, to have perfect comfort while I endure all of it for him. Is that
cultivation? Could that elevate your mind? When you run into these problems,
how are you going to cultivate if you can’t generate upright thoughts as you
deal with them? How are you going to continue on your path? I have done so much
for you, yet you blame Dafa, blame me, and even badmouth me. Of course, I would
never complain about anyone. I am just discussing Fa-principles with you all,
discussing a principle. Even if you badmouth me, I will not hold a grievance
against you, because my mind is not on the plane of ordinary people. Whether
you say that I am good or bad, whether you say that I am a god or a human, I
won’t be swayed, for no human thoughts can stir me. If you can reach this state
that I have, you are then not far from the Consummation of your cultivation.
That was just an example. While
you cultivate, the mind must be righteous. Of course, while I tell you to be righteous,
it’s possible you might still not be righteous. Can you be righteous just from
my saying a few words? The only thing that can help you develop righteous
thoughts, which can enable you to ascend through cultivation—the most
fundamental thing—is the book of Fa. We have more than 100 million people who
are cultivating, so it’s not possible for every person to sit here today like
you are. It’s not possible for me to talk to each of you, one after another.
But I have imparted the Fa, so I must be responsible to you. In order to truly
enable you to ascend through cultivation, I have utilized a method, namely,
taking what I can give to you and what I can help you with, and compressing all
of it into the book of Fa. The only thing left is to see if you want to obtain
it. For this reason I tell everyone that when you can’t see me, you must take
the Fa as the Master. Take the Fa as the Master.
Next I will talk about a small
problem. Some students go to extremes as they cultivate. They suddenly
enlighten to something and think, “Oh, this can stir up my attachments. I don’t
want it. I’ll do away with it. Oh, this job I have can stir up my attachments.
I will quit it. Hmm, I think I’ll just avoid everything.” Think about it: is
that doing cultivation? Isn’t that going to extremes? I often say something. I
say that you are cultivating among everyday people, and you should cultivate
while conforming to the way of everyday people to the greatest extent. This is
not a simple sentence, and it’s not to say that you have met the standard set
forth in the sentence just by doing your job as usual. Think about it
carefully, everyone. [What I am talking about] is manifested in every facet of
your cultivation practice. If you are unable to cultivate in everyday people’s
society [following the forms of] everyday people, then you are damaging the way
of everyday people’s society. Even though ordinary society is not good, it too
was created by the cosmic Dafa for the beings at the level of mankind. It is
precisely because of its bad traits that mankind is allowed to cultivate here.
It is meant for you to melt and dissolve away human badness, and for you to
rise above and beyond, just like the lotus flower, rising out of mud—holy and
pure. You absolutely must not go to extremes, and you absolutely must not
understand the Fa in an off-track way. When you go to extremes, when you wish
to cast off all sorts of [normal] things, when you discard your jobs, for
example, in reality you are already in the midst of another attachment. Your fear
of attachments itself has formed an attachment; it is your attachment of
fearing attachments.
I will only say this much, since
in a few moments students will speak and share experiences. I know that some
reporters are in the audience, and they might have come from afar. I can
appreciate the difficulties you’ve gone through. I, Li Hongzhi, do not want to
achieve some human type of fame. I just want to be responsible to my disciples
and students who are cultivating Dafa. My reason for coming to Australia was to
answer questions about cultivation for them, making it possible for them to
improve and elevate. But you have come, and I don’t want you to leave
empty-handed. As always, my requirement is that if a reporter hasn’t finished
reading through Zhuan Falun once, I will not meet with him or her. Only
after you have a certain degree of knowledge about us will I talk with you.
Since what I am imparting is so large, it definitely can’t be explained clearly
in a few words. What you want to know are all matters of everyday society. I
don’t like to address them, since at present I don’t get involved whatsoever in
ordinary human affairs; I don’t get involved in human affairs in the least. But
you have come, and I hope you can sit here and calmly listen to our practitioners’
speeches today, and take in the entirety of our two-day Fa conference.
Afterwards I will meet with you, and you can ask questions. During the time of
the conference, though, I absolutely will not meet with anyone, for I have many
things to take care of. Our Fa conference is for the purpose of helping
students to truly improve, and it is absolutely not a formality, and it is
definitely not just done for others to take in. (Applause)
Okay, our students will now
continue to host the conference, so that’s all I will say. Tomorrow afternoon I
will thoroughly answer questions for all of you. I’ll now join you in listening
to the students’ speeches.
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You may pass up your slips of
paper. This afternoon is mainly to explain the Fa to you, and to answer
questions that you raise. After a period of cultivation, there are many
problems that can be resolved by what is in the book. But, there are questions
that you may still feel better asking Master about so that you can have peace of
mind. All of you have thoughts like these, so I’ll fulfill your wish. I will
answer your questions for as long as I can. Okay, we’ll get started then.
Student: Are all of a person’s
tribulations since the beginning of cultivation arranged, or are they due to
self-imposed factors?
Teacher: In cultivation the
path has been arranged, but not passing tests well is due to self-imposed
factors. Cultivation is a very complicated thing, so not every case is going to
be the same, nor could the things that have happened to one person happen to
another. The same thing can’t possibly be dealt with in the same way, because
you are, after all, cultivating in delusion. If everything were the same, then
the delusion would be broken. Everyone would know what to do: “Oh, someone else
has handled it that way and did very well. That’s how I’ll do it.” Then it
wouldn’t be called cultivation. Tribulations are in fact results of your own
karma. The karma accumulated from many lives is obstructing your cultivation,
obstructing your return to your original, true selves, and obstructing your
improvement. It is this karma that’s exerting an effect. I have cleaned up a
portion of it, while the remainder is saved for you to eliminate. That’s
because there is a principle in this universe: what is owed must be repaid.
Regardless of which past life it happened in, doing bad things accumulates
karma and then, in the next life or sometime later in the current life, it must
be repaid. So, it is precisely this exerting its effect. I call it tribulation.
In fact even everyday people experience this. The illnesses and hardships in
life that everyday people suffer under painful circumstances are all in fact
their tribulations. For our students, it’s just that I have placed them at
different levels in your cultivation, and I utilize them to have you pass
tests, cultivate, and elevate your xinxing. I’m using them to achieve
this effect. But everyday people repay karma merely for the purpose of repaying
karma, so it doesn’t have the element of cultivation, and everyday people repay
however much karma they have. In our case, karma needs to be eliminated for you
since otherwise the tribulations would be so great that you couldn’t cultivate.
Of course there are conditions, as everyone already knows. It’s explained very
clearly in the Fa, so I won’t repeat it.
Student: The pace of my
individual Fa study is different than the pace of group Fa study. Does that
matter?
Teacher: Studying the Fa by
yourself, if you can continue to steadfastly cultivate solidly, is also
remarkable. But as you all know, it’s impossible for you to study the Fa very
diligently alone at home, and it’s impossible not to come into contact with
ordinary society. In today’s ordinary society, people just do as they please.
It’s a society where people are capable of doing all kinds of bad things
without any moral standard or moral constraint. Today’s humankind is just like
this. Those people that you come into contact with in society are all from
everyday people’s society. What they talk about, say, think, and do are all
part of what today’s humankind does. Then, when you cultivate by yourself
without a very good environment, the only environment you come into contact
with is that type of environment. Then in reality you are being influenced by
it, and so it’s very hard for you to improve. I’ve said that many students felt
that they were pretty good before cultivation, that they were good people.
After genuinely doing cultivation, they find out that that wasn’t the case in
the least. The reason they believed they were good is that they were comparing
themselves with the today’s mankind, which is no longer good, and not comparing
themselves to the era of mankind’s highest morality or with the nature of the
universe.
Also, as you practice in a group
and while you are together, what you say, think, and do are all out of
benevolent thoughts, and you’re able to consider others as much as you can in
whatever you do. That is a very pure and clean environment, a piece of
peaceful, harmonious, and pure land. Then as cultivators in those surroundings,
you will be nurtured by this compassionate force within that environment.
That’s for sure. So there’s a reason I tell you to practice together. The
people you come into contact with in that environment are all good people.
Their words, actions, and deeds just aren’t the same as those of people in
ordinary society, so this environment can’t be lost. But there are a few areas
where there are not so many people studying Dafa, just one or two people, and
they don’t have such a good environment. In that case, then, one has to rely on
oneself. There really are students like that—truly studying quietly,
cultivating quietly, and progressing diligently. Truly remarkable! I’m saying
here, though, that a group cultivation environment is essential and very good.
You shouldn’t lose that environment. That environment tempers people.
Student: In exchanging
experiences with students I feel as if male students tend to emphasize
rationally understanding the Fa, while female students tend to emphasize
perceptually understanding the Fa. If this is a common phenomenon, how can we
learn from each other and improve faster?
Teacher: I don’t really
agree with this. Those students who understand the Fa well can all rationally
understand the Fa. Only those who read the book infrequently—that’s to say
those, who are not diligent enough, or those who have just begun to study—tend
to understand the Fa perceptually. In this regard there’s no difference between
male and female. Today’s women are remarkable too, [it’s not just men]; they
have their own minds and abilities. It can’t be understood like you described.
And female Dafa disciples’ inborn quality and ability can’t be distinguished by
outward appearances.
Student: How should we
understand the idea of going through In-Triple-World-Fa cultivation twice?
Teacher: It’s one of the
manifestations of students’ different situations, which determine how they
cultivate. It could also happen eight or ten times. For instance, if you are
only to reach Consummation at the realm of Arhat, it’s sufficient for you to
cultivate in In-Triple-World-Fa once. If you are cultivating towards higher
levels, then it’s necessary to cultivate repeatedly and continuously during
cultivation. Some people are relatively sensitive; it’s possible that some are
more aware and know a little bit more.
Student: In the process of
studying the Fa, it’s necessary to understand the Fa-principles clearly,
without falling into the attachment of pursuing knowledge. How should we handle
this?
Teacher: When you are able
to understand the meaning of cultivation based on the Fa, you will understand.
The only way to understand the Fa from within the Fa is to read the book more.
The book of our Dafa can solve all mysteries and can rectify all human
thoughts; as long as you read the Dafa books they can all be resolved. Whenever
you feel that you can’t obtain answers to many questions, it is in fact you
yourself not wanting to obtain the answers. That’s because if you read the book
and study the Fa, any question can be answered. As you know, the government
authorities now openly acknowledge that we have more than 100 million people.
If every person wanted to find me so that he could have me answer his
questions… there’s no way that could happen. The Australian students sitting
here right now can see me, while the mainland Chinese students can’t see me at
all. I’m often in mainland China, actually. They can’t see me because I can’t
go to meet with them. If one area knows where I am, then students will spread
it with the effect that the entire country knows, and then everyone will come
to find me. The society of China is different from other societies. If people
can’t understand us it might cause damage to Dafa, and thus I can’t meet with
you. Even under these circumstances, though, I will still be responsible for
your cultivation. So how do I manage to be responsible? I just said this
yesterday: I have compressed everything I can give you into the book of Fa, and
as long as you read the book you will receive everything. Some students have
already read Zhuan Falun more than two hundred times, and they are still
reading it. Each reading is different, because it is a book of cultivation.
Contained inside are inner meanings at different levels. Those questions that
arise after completing your first reading will be answered during your second
reading, and you will understand. But after you finish reading a second time,
there will be new questions, and then when you read for the third time, those
questions will be answered in the same fashion. By continually cultivating like
this, and continually reading like this, you are making progress with
diligence. Add in the Dafa exercises, this type of supplementary method, then
you are elevating. Some people often ask me, “Teacher, will I be able to reach
Consummation?” Then I would answer with a question to you, “Well, can you do
things as I just taught?” In fact, you should ask yourself the question of
whether you can reach Consummation.
Student: After cultivating to
very high levels, the body’s cells are completely replaced by high-energy
matter. At that time, there is no metabolism. Does it mean there is no need to
eat or drink then?
Teacher: Yes, but it must
be that the entire human body has been transformed into high-energy matter.
Then it can be done. It’s not sufficient if the body’s surface hasn’t reached
this state. As you know, when one practices qigong one stores up qi
and can emit qi. When one truly cultivates to higher levels, though,
it’s no longer qi. Qi becomes nothing at all, and instead there
is a higher energy that I call gong. It’s actually a more microscopic
essence of matter. And this type of essence of matter will be stored in your
body. Every cell in your body will store this type of high-energy essence of
matter. The matter that’s more microscopic certainly has a restraining nature.
After a long time, this type of high-energy matter will gradually become more
and more abundant, more and more substantial. Then the cells in your body, won’t
they become assimilated by it? After all of your cells have been assimilated by
this type of high-energy matter, will your body still be the same as an
everyday person’s body? Such a body is then composed of high-energy matter
collected from other dimensions. In that case, does ordinary human metabolism
still exist? It no longer exists. At that point you can do without eating and
drinking, but it doesn’t mean that you cannot eat or drink. What you will
really need will not be things from this dimension of ours. If you were offered
human stuff, you wouldn’t like eating it. You would feel nauseas at the sight
of it. What you will need then is higher matter from other dimensions.
Student: All of the students
from Guangzhou miss you! All of the students from Guangzhou send their
greetings!
Teacher: Thank you all. (Applause)
Student: Generally
speaking, are cultivators from Australia at relatively low levels?
Teacher: I haven’t said
that. Cultivation depends on oneself. In reality, you can’t know even now the realm
to which you have cultivated. Once you knew, you would have strong attachments.
Then it would become a type of obstacle and stand in the path of your
cultivation. So not knowing means that you won’t have this attachment.
Student: In Essentials for Further
Advancement, Master mentioned that cultivation is a serious matter, and not
everyday people’s self-examination or repentance. I feel that I’ve been
stagnating in a state of self-examination and repentance and can’t break
through. May I ask, what is the difference between searching inside oneself and
self-examination?
Teacher: Improvement in
cultivation can’t be equated with self-examination and repentance. But, the
fact that you are able to examine yourself and feel repentant is in itself part
of cultivation. That’s the relationship.
You know, I often say that even if
Christianity and Catholicism don’t use the terms of cultivation [that we do],
they too are cultivation. It’s just that due to cultural differences Jesus and
Jehovah didn’t use the term, “cultivation” (xiulian). That’s because in
their culture there is no such concept, and the way of thinking is different.
Think about it: aren’t they cultivating? When people walk into church, with
very pious hearts they repent to their Lord and Jesus. They talk about what
they have done wrong and in what regards they have behaved poorly, and they
declare that they will do better next time. Then afterwards they do better.
After that when [more] mistakes are found, again there’s repentance, and then
again they behave according to higher standards. Think about it everyone:
cultivation is in fact to cultivate one’s heart. Isn’t what they do cultivation
of the heart? Ultimately they become better and better, and do better and
better. Haven’t they then achieved the standard required by that paradise of
theirs? Isn’t that Consummation? It’s just due to the difference in cultures
that there was no discussion of gong; it wasn’t discussed in terms as
rich as those in Eastern cultures. So, many terms they use are relatively
simple, and the requirements are relatively straightforward. They only talk
about faith, about firm belief in God.
Student: There’s a cultivator
who is experiencing the test of life and death, yet he is not clearheaded. How
should cultivators around him conduct themselves?
Teacher: “There’s a
cultivator who is experiencing the test of life and death”—putting it that way
isn’t quite right. And as he is not clearheaded, it can’t be said that he is
cultivating. Fundamentally he is not diligent, and is relying on perceptual
understandings of the Fa and human enthusiasm. He hasn’t truly understood the
Fa rationally, hasn’t truly, diligently, and solidly cultivated. It’s not true
cultivation. As you know, cultivation is a serious matter; I can’t recognize a person
like that as a cultivator. Nothing in the world is more solemn than
cultivation. When a person who has karma all over his body, a person whose mind
is filled with filthy thoughts, wants to become a great Enlightened Being and
cultivate to Consummation, what a solemn thing that is, and how magnificent is
the process through which that cultivator manages to let go of everything that
is human! Will it do if you can’t treat it seriously?! Will it do if you can’t
manage to pass each test on your own?! Not paying attention, seemingly
believing yet not believing, seemingly cultivating but not cultivating, totally
not being responsible to himself—can such a person reach Consummation? Right?
It won’t do if you don’t act according to Dafa’s xinxing requirements. Everyday people get sick. Birth, aging, sickness,
and death are a natural cycle for everyday people.
Student: As a university
student who practices cultivation, how can I keep making progress with
diligence? Some disciples have suggested that not going to college and joining
the workforce may result in better circumstances for cultivation.
Teacher: I’d say that would
be a horrendous mistake. I understand that some people will become overly
excited when they see the truth, especially when I teach the Dafa today and
have taught so many of heaven’s secrets. Upon obtaining the Fa a person will
become excited, and it’s easy not to balance well being a cultivator and an
everyday person. To cultivate while conforming to everyday people’s society to
the maximum extent is not just a simple sentence: it is the Fa! It is
interwoven from every angle and perspective. I know that there will be more
people studying Dafa all over the world in the future, billions of people
studying. When I first taught this Fa I knew already what the result would be.
With that many people all coming to study, if no one worked or went to school,
could that do?! So, I thought about that stage before I began teaching this Fa.
The question of how to allow people to cultivate in everyday people’s society
is of great relevance. So, neither your work, nor your business, your studies
at school, or any other aspect of your life will interfere with your
cultivation. You need to go about your work and studies as usual. Your work and
your studies are definitely not cultivation, but, as someone who does
cultivation, your improved xinxing will manifest itself in your work and
studies. That’s the connection. So, wherever Dafa students are, people will all
say that, as a person, you’re just
wonderful. That is a state that reflects
your cultivating while conforming to ordinary society to the maximum extent. If
you can’t achieve this, it means that you are not acting according to my words,
to Master’s requirements. If you don’t even listen to what I say, then why do
you still call me Master? I wouldn’t teach you to walk down a path that’s not
good. Since I have taught this Fa, I must be responsible to it. In fact, I
treasure you more than you treasure yourselves, for you exist together with
Master. You are the most magnificent gods of the future, the exemplary models
of the new cosmos, and mankind’s hope for the future. By all means, do not stop
doing everyday people’s things after you start learning the Fa. [On the other
hand,] as for things that Dafa doesn’t allow, if you don’t do them, that shows
that your degree of understanding is good. But if you stop doing a normal,
ordinary human job, then there is a problem here that stems from the attachment
of zealotry.
Student: Young disciples
from Leshan city send their greetings to Master! Beijing Dafa disciples send
their highest respects to Master! Dalian city disciples send their greetings to
Master!
Teacher: Thank you
everyone! (Applause)
Student: You said in
Lecture Eight of Zhuan Falun, in the section, “Whoever Practices Cultivation
Will Attain Gong,” that, “all messages, living beings, and cells in your body
are attaining gong.” What do the messages and living beings refer to?
Teacher: Your every cell
bears the image of yourself, all the way to the most microscopic of the
microscopic. I’m not just discussing this issue in regard to the Fa. Mankind
has likewise recognized this now. Scientists take cross-sections of small
animals’ cells and later transfer them to computers, and when they are
displayed on the monitor, they discover that the cell is in the image of that
small animal, and they’re identical. But when just the surface is looked at,
it’s just a cell. My point is, when you are doing the exercises and everything
of your body is changing as you go, then is your cell a living being? It
definitely is. Additionally, everything that comes about as a result of your
cultivation has life in it, including your gong, including every
particle of your gong, various Fa implements, supernormal abilities, and
divine powers. And that’s not all—when a person reaches Consummation he must
have a wealth of things, for only then can he become a Great Enlightened Being.
So they are all alive, they all have lives and abilities. That’s what it means.
Student: Are twins two primordial
spirits reincarnating simultaneously?
Teacher: That is certainly
the case. It’s definitely not one primordial spirit split into halves.
Student: In certain areas of
Africa polygamy is practiced. Is it okay to spread the Fa to them?
Teacher: Yes, anyone can
learn. There are differences in societal norms, differences in people’s
understandings of morality, rationality, and notions. So there are very big
differences. But none of this affects their ability to cultivate. In any
setting, at any level, anybody can do cultivation. It just remains to be seen
whether they cultivate or not.
Student: Our human body in this
dimension is nothing more than a particle in the enormous body of the cosmos.
Yet the differences in the particles’ sizes make up the differences in
dimensions, resulting in one having a body in various dimensions. But this
dimension doesn’t just belong only to you, but is a part of the cosmos.
Teacher: Right, this
understanding is right. Even though you yourself are one individual being, you are
also one particle within the collective body of the cosmos, a member of the
collective being. For example, like what I just talked about, you are one
individual being. It can also be said that you are a whole being in this realm,
with every cell in your body being an independent particle form that bears
exactly the same image as yours, yet they are also part of the whole at the
same time.
Student: Master has said that
the state of ancient China’s societies and ancient peoples were better than
those of modern times. How then should we understand the contention and
fighting that went on in ancient Chinese history? Is it as Confucius said, that
only the ancient society before the Spring and Autumn Warring States Period and
the Period of Three Emperors and Five Kings[2]
was good?
Teacher: All of the ancient
societies were better than modern society, regardless of which period. This is
comparing humans with humans, however, and in reality this dimension of humans
is just very bad. Looking from any dimension in the universe that’s higher than
the human level, this place of humans is all bad, the most filthy, and the
least able to see the truth of the cosmos. It has been bad all along, and
today’s people are even worse since now people’s notions are inverted. I’m not
talking about people being opposite relative to other dimensions; that was
predetermined by the heavens. I’m talking about comparing today’s people to
people of the past—their notions are opposite, good and evil are reversed. So
now when people do bad things, they no longer realize that they are doing
something bad, and they think that they’re doing a good thing. If you say that
they are bent solely on profit, they would say that it’s a sign of ability.
When such a person sees that a thief robbed someone, he doesn’t say that the
thief is bad. He says that you haven’t been careful enough. Isn’t this a case
of concepts being completely turned upside down? Modern people say that ancient
times weren’t good, but in fact that is a reflection of modern people using a
degenerated notion to judge the ancients. In the movies produced in Hong Kong
you see ancient people portrayed as killing and fighting constantly, but that’s
just artistic technique, artistic embellishment. Over the long history of
several thousand years, things like that are so insignificant that they’re not
worth mentioning. As you know, art needs to be larger than life.
People of the past said, “When
striking people, don’t strike the face.” This sentence sounds very simple. But
even when fighting, a person was able to restrain himself and not allowed to do
as he wished. Yet now when people fight they specifically strike the face.
Cruel, vicious, and without any restraint, man is now different. Of course, why
were there wars in the ancient times? Let me tell you, that was determined by
the heavens. That’s because what the cosmos’s Fa-principles set forth for
humans in this dimension are in fact: conquering the world with military force;
the victor governing the country; and the strong being heroes. These things,
from the perspective of high-level dimensions, are all bad, but in the midst of
man’s opposite principles they fit in with man’s principles that are opposite
of the cosmos’s, and have exerted their effect in human society for thousands
of years. When man’s karma grows large it is necessary to eliminate karma. So
natural catastrophes, human disasters, and man’s wars then ensue.
Student: Regarding the words or
concepts that I don’t understand when reading Zhuan Falun or listening to your
teaching of the Fa through your answering questions at other locations, is it
absolutely necessary to understand words such as “naturally” and “inevitable”?[3]
Teacher: The words’ surface
is generally the same as people’s understanding. It’s actually not necessary to
dig into these words. When reading the book you all should avoid digging into
the words. You should just read along sequentially, but you must be aware that
you are reading the Fa. You must be aware of what you’re reading. Yet the Fa’s
inner meaning is not at the surface. When you are clear on that sentence’s
other and higher interpretations, that is the Fa-principles’ inner meaning
being manifested and the Fa revealing itself.
Student: As an
acupuncturist, when inserting the needles I come into contact with the
patient’s skin and when using the technique of “cupping” as treatment, it draws
out many filthy things from the patient’s skin. These two actions transmit
karma. Can a cultivator continue to do this type of work?
Teacher: Don’t be so overly
cautious, because you come into contact with everyday people in all of your
activities in society. For example, the chair that you sit in: someone else
just sat in it. Will you sit in it or not? Things that other people have
touched: will you touch them or not? This type of indirect contact is still
contact. This society is filthy, and that’s just how it is. Cultivators
can’t have the mentality of fearing this or fearing that, forming another type
of attachment—the attachment of fearing all kinds of things. Cultivate openly
and with dignity. What your body emits is the righteous Fa’s light. There are
many Dafa disciples involved in doing scientific research. During experiments
involving bacteria, when their hands accidentally got close to where bacteria
were, it was discovered that the bacteria all died. There have been many cases
like that. That is to say, you as Dafa students innately have the ability to
kill bacteria. You aren’t using a qigong method to give treatments [at
your job], but using everyday people’s methods of medical treatment, so it
isn’t a problem. Even if you could be contaminated with a bit of karma, it’s
tinier than tiny and has no effect. If you did use qigong to heal
people, though, that would be different. That would be very clearly trading with
other people, with you acquiring the illness and giving away good things to
others. So, I say that those phony qigong masters who have not gone
through cultivation, who only want to use it to make money, are in reality
hurting themselves—hurting themselves fatally. People dare to do anything for
money and don’t even know when they are hurting themselves.
Student: I’ve been cultivating
for more than two years now. I firmly believe in Dafa and have obtained a
certain level of understanding. Yet during experience sharing conferences, I
don’t know what to say. I understand things in my heart but can’t express them
clearly. So I don’t want to say anything. Is this due to my inborn
communication skills being poor or insufficient understanding of the Fa?
Teacher: This may not
necessarily be due to a problem with your understanding of the Fa. Everyone has
a different state in cultivation.
Student: What is the
difference between those who started to cultivate early and those who started
to cultivate later?
Teacher: There is no
difference. I have never said that those who started to cultivate early would
be such and such, and those who started to cultivate later would be such and
such. Dafa is still being spread. As long as you have obtained it, you should
just proceed with your cultivation. If there wasn’t a way to have you reach
Consummation, you wouldn’t be allowed to cultivate. Differences in level are
not due to how long it has been since a person obtained the Fa, but to the
person’s own individual cultivation.
Student: While
meditating, I found myself unable to stop my head from constantly swinging and
turning. Because of it, I can’t reach a tranquil state during the meditation.
Instead, it makes me feel panicky inside. What’s happening?
Teacher: There are two
possible scenarios. The first one occurs when a new student has yet to become a
genuine cultivator. In that case perhaps you learned some other things in the
past, or displayed certain things in your home to worship in the past, or
worshipped certain things in the past. Doing bad things among everyday people
and thus bringing something upon oneself is another possible cause that can’t
be ruled out. If in the process of your practice you manage to truly cultivate
Dafa with a firm heart, then I will eliminate that thing. And there’s another
situation. Namely, after a person starts to cultivate, his body is being
adjusted during the initial stage. Some part of his body has suffered from
health problems in the past. In this case, it may be a reflection of karma
being eliminated in that area. Both situations are possible causes. But do your
best not to swing along with it. If it’s truly too hard to control, you can
practice with your eyes open. Why is it that you aren’t moving around right
now? You should just maintain your current state while practicing and close
your eyes only when you’re no longer moving. Swinging may also occur in
cultivators whose Great Heavenly Circuits are opened up.
Student: All Dafa
students from Pittsburgh in the United States send their greetings to Teacher!
Teacher: Thanks everyone! (Applause)
Student: While an adult is
doing the meditation, is it all right for a child to sleep by his side? If this
were to happen, how would it affect the child’s main primordial spirit and
assistant spirit?
Teacher: You were actually
asking whether the child would be able to acquire gong. Yet you don’t
want to say it directly because you have an attachment there. Haven’t I said
that with one person practicing, the whole family benefits? At a minimum, the
energy field that you carry is beneficial to all of your family members since
you are cultivating the righteous Fa, and the benevolent and tranquil power
that you carry can rectify all incorrect states.
Student: There’s this
person who said that once one has cultivated to a certain level, if he often
talks about or recollects his earlier cultivation process and the way that he
felt while his karma was being eliminated, he will drop back down to the level
he was at at that point in the past.
Teacher: How could that be
possible?! When a cultivator talks about his cultivation process it’s to help
both himself and other Dafa disciples do better when going through that form of
tribulation again. It doesn’t have any effect on one’s level at all. But, if he
did it with the mentality of showing off it’s a completely different matter. In
that case, when he talks about it some students won’t like listening to it.
Student: You said yesterday
that mind and matter are one. Then what does that have to do with us studying
the Fa?
Teacher: The person who
submitted this note is not yet a student and doesn’t yet understand the Fa that
I am teaching. But I will still answer your question, since I am teaching
cultivation here. You have heard clearly just now that human bodies can undergo
changes during cultivation. All of these changes are brought about by
improvements in the cultivator’s xinxing and the elevation of his mind
during the process of cultivation. People usually think that xinxing
belongs to the immaterial, or mental, realm and that there’s no connection
between mind and matter. Some people think, “What does the mind have to do with
the exercises we practice? We’re just practicing exercises here. Why are those
principles being discussed?” This is the fundamental reason why many people’s gong
doesn’t increase with their practice. When you come to understand the
principles, your thoughts will be elevated, your state of mind will be
improved, and you will come to understand even higher principles. That reflects
your improved state of mind and the position of your state of mind. Only when
you reach this standard can your gong increase. That’s the principle. If
you don’t understand this principle, your gong will not increase even if
you do the exercises everyday from dawn to dusk without stopping to eat or
drink. But if you say that you just want to read the book and not do the
exercises, then you can’t be considered a cultivating disciple of Dafa either,
for you would just be studying it as a theory. You can call it “cultivation”
only when one wants to cultivate, has the desire to reach Consummation, and at
the same time carries out the actions involved in cultivation. This is only a
surface-level explanation, though. In reality the elevation of the mind is
the elevation of gong, as mind and matter are one.
Student: While reading
Zhuan Falun, the same phenomenon happened several times: while reading the
book, my head suddenly felt heavy and I felt very sleepy. But I did not fall
asleep. I felt my eyes were constantly drawn to a certain passage of the book.
Suddenly another passage of words appeared in the book, but those words were
not from Zhuan Falun.
Teacher: This is your
thought karma severely interfering with you and not letting you read the book
and study the Fa. It makes you feel sleepy and want to fall asleep. It makes
you lose your righteous thoughts and righteous faith. When it gets anxious, it
will even manifest itself to interfere with you, even causing words to appear
in your head. Demons that damage Dafa also do this. When they get anxious, they
will even argue with you in your head, talk to you, and not let you study.
Isn’t it obvious? Thought karma or outside interference is at work and
preventing you from elevating. That’s because your improvement eliminates it.
I’ve said that I would eliminate your karma. When it is truly eliminated, it is
truly disintegrated. Will it accept that? So it does everything it can to fight
back. If you consider those things a part of you, then you won’t be able to
obtain the Fa, for the Fa is given to you and it absolutely can’t be given to
that karma. So, you need to overcome it. No matter how sleepy you get, you need
to overcome, suppress, and eliminate it. The moment you break through this
barrier is also the moment it is eliminated.
Student: Right now I feel
that in regard to many things I am making a mistake as soon as I say or do
anything, so I no longer dare to say or do anything. But quite a few people
around me think that I’m overly cautious.
Teacher: I think so too. As
a matter of fact, this is a state that emerges when one has come to see the
truth and realizes that human principles are actually reversed. It’s a
manifestation of the process of becoming a cultivator. But at the same time,
one still has to behave as a cultivator and cultivate in an open and dignified
manner. The only thing is that the realm of a cultivator will be displayed in
the things that he does intentionally and unintentionally, and they will meet a
very high standard. Don’t get trapped in another kind of attachment, becoming
afraid of making mistakes when saying or doing things. That fear is also an
attachment. Try your best to do things in an open and dignified manner. There’s
no problem with that.
Student: Could you tell us the
root cause of our vanity?
Teacher: Emotion. You like
it when other people say that you’re good. You like it when other people praise
and flatter you. You like it when other people respect you. And you are afraid
of anything that damages your image. All of which is developing the mentality
that is vanity. It’s an attachment. The human desire to save face is very
strong. In fact, when you set your mind at ease and don’t carry so much
baggage, you will cultivate faster.
Student: During the
process of cultivation, many tribulations are easy to pass. I have been able to
overcome them by bearing down. But emotion is a test that’s very difficult to
pass. I’ve been unable to pass it in several tries, especially since I’m fairly
meek and easily moved. I have cultivated for close to two years now. But during
this time, because of problems with my feelings toward my boyfriend, I stopped
practicing for several months. Now I want to start practicing again. Will
Teacher still take care of me?
Teacher: The door to Dafa
is still left wide open. There are still new students constantly coming in to
study it. New students are still stepping in the door. As long as you
cultivate, everything depends on you. But you can’t behave like that all the
time. It’s enough to learn a lesson once. Emotion is something that’s very
difficult to let go of. Let me tell you this: human beings all think that their
thoughts and emotions are parts of their own bodies and are products of their
thoughts. That’s not the case at all. Emotion is precisely the display of the
most irrational things. Whenever you are stirred up by emotion, you aren’t able
to act rationally at all. Think about it carefully, when you can’t get certain
things off your mind, when you feel angry and feel that you have been treated
unjustly, at those moments you are being led by emotion. Some people are
totally unable to control themselves and become overly giddy. When one’s
emotions become abnormal, it means that he is being led by emotion to the point
of becoming irrational. There are people who have a hard time letting go of
emotion, even to the point of feeling a heart-wrenching loss when trying to,
and they are dragged along so passively by emotion. Emotion is at work in
everything. In reality, this emotion is a god within our dimension of the Three
Realms. He was created for human beings, and exists for the sake of human
beings and all sentient beings within the Three Realms. Without emotion, human
beings would become cold and indifferent. If human beings had no emotion, they
would be even viler. Then for mankind life wouldn’t be meaningful. Precisely
because there is emotion, people have learned to feel happy, angry, sad, and
elated. Precisely because there’s emotion, there is a special bond between
parents and children. Precisely because there’s emotion, people are able to
form families. Precisely because there’s emotion, people can love and protect
their children. Emotion is able to play these roles for human beings. But
because of misguided thoughts, emotion can also bring about incorrect behavior
in human beings or incorrect ways of thinking. From the moment a person is born
he is immersed in emotion. It has saturated all of your cells. All of the
molecules and cells within the Three Realms are saturated by it. So it’s very
difficult to escape from it during cultivation. As a cultivator, if you can’t
let go of emotion, all of your behavior is human behavior. Valuing emotion is
in fact defending emotion. And in that case, you are just an ordinary human
being. If you can let go of it, then you are no longer a part of it, and are a
god. That’s the principle.
Buddhas, Bodhisattvas, Arhats, and Gods are outside of this emotion. Gods outside
of the Three Realms don’t have human emotion. But not having human emotion
doesn’t equate to not caring for and protecting others. They possess something
higher, called compassion (cibei), which is nobler, broader, and more
wonderful. Emotion is an element within the Three Realms.
Student: Students from
Fuzhou city phoned me and asked me to give their greetings to their revered
Teacher!
Teacher: Thank you,
everyone! (Applause)
Student: Singapore is a
society that’s multi-racial and uses English as the common language. Its
population is 3.2 million, 76% of which is Chinese. But currently, only a small
number of people there are learning Dafa. Most of them are educated in English.
They can understand spoken Chinese but have challenges reading Chinese. This is
one of several things that serves as a barrier and poses difficulties with
people obtaining the Fa. I was also educated in English and can understand
their difficulties. Master, how can we spread Dafa to more people in Singapore
in this situation?
Teacher: This type of
situation also exists in other regions. There are some Chinese people in
Australia, and there are also Chinese people living in other western countries,
yet they were brought up completely in Western culture, so they don’t speak
Chinese. But does that mean that they can’t study the Fa? They can read the
English version of Zhuan Falun or read Zhuan Falun in other
languages. They can obtain the Fa just the same. This isn’t a problem.
Student: Master said that all
of the human beings on Earth right now are not supposed to be humans. Is this
understanding of mine correct? At the beginning when these people came down, it
was not caused by them falling down step by step because they became bad.
Instead, they took a risk and came down here. But once they arrived in the
human world, they all fell into delusion and have accumulated a lot of karma.
Some people have accumulated too much karma and are completely lost. They are
no longer able to cultivate at all. But in spite of this, Master only looks at
the fact that they came down to obtain the Fa initially. So regardless of who
it is, as long as he develops the thought of wanting to cultivate today and
enters the practice, Master will offer him salvation.
Teacher: That’s basically
correct. But not all the people came down here out of righteous thoughts; some
did fall down to this level. But when offering people salvation, Dafa treats
everyone the same. This door of mine is opened so wide that there’s no door
left anymore. Only people’s hearts are being looked at. In addition, it’s true
that I have said that human beings in today’s world didn’t come to be humans.
But not all of them came to become Buddhas, Daos, or Gods either. That is to
say that not all of them came to cultivate. But all of them came on account of
Dafa, were formed by Dafa, and were created by Dafa. They play both positive
and negative roles.
Student: Since beginning to
study Falun Dafa, I have seen you in my dreams twice. Both times, you looked
like your current image. I received my education in English and I am also a
child of mixed race. Why is that I was unable to see your Law Bodies but could
see a split body of yours?
Teacher: Every person’s
cultivation progresses differently. I don’t want to tell you too specifically.
Some students’ situations are different and they can’t see my Law Bodies
either. Everyone knows that the Law Body has the image of a Buddha, with blue
hair and wearing a yellow kasaya. Before you reach the realm of Buddha, you are
not allowed to see the image of a Buddha. This is the issue. In order not to
disrupt your improvement, I don’t talk much about your specific situations.
Some people can see, and seeing can easily lead to the attachment of
complacency. So I have always refrained from talking about specific situations,
and people have asked about them all along. Some people carry their inborn
elements with them, which allows them to see. There are many people like that,
as I have told you that no human beings came to be humans, and it’s because of
this. Then there are people who have cultivated very well and need to achieve
breakthroughs faster. They’re not allowed to see, and this results in their not
being able to see anything. No religion or cultivation method is able to save
you to a place that is even higher than its own gods. Our Dafa can save all
sentient beings. How high a person cultivates is up to the person himself.
That’s because Dafa is the Fa of the cosmos and has created living environments
for all beings in the cosmos. It can bring you back to the original position.
But the requirements are correspondingly high as well. Some students need to
cultivate to very high levels. If their [state of needing to] enlighten to
things is ruptured, they will never be able to reach that realm.
The path of cultivation is
determined based on the person. Everyone is different. Some people can see very
clearly, seeing one thing after another as time goes on. Some people simply
can’t see anything, meanwhile. Don’t think that those who can’t see anything
are at a low level, and don’t think that those who can see have cultivated
well. One’s level of cultivation is based on the level of his xinxing.
This is for sure. Throughout history there has never been a cultivation system
that used supernormal abilities as a standard for judging how good a person’s xinxing
is or how high is his level. That has never happened.
Student: Everything is
transformed from de. Then will receiving things from Master cause one to lose
virtue?
Teacher: I’ve said this in
the past, I said that all of you are cultivators and should hold yourselves to
strict standards. No matter who you are, you have to act that way. That’s
because you are in the process of cultivation and that is the requirement for
your cultivation. But I am not a cultivator. Master is here to save you. You
have to be clear on this. So you should never, ever compare yourselves with me.
Student: Master said that every
single disciple’s cultivation path is arranged all the way to Consummation. But
in Zhuan Falun it says, “What they have physically, along with their endurance,
is predestined.”
Teacher: There’s no
inconsistency there. I have arranged for everyone to reach Consummation. But
everyone won’t necessarily reach Consummation at the same realm. Isn’t that the
idea? So, the things that you yourself carry, your ability to forbear, ability
to endure, and where your original positions are, are all different.
Student: “… some people will
experience the Unlocking of Gong or become enlightened… at a very low level.”
In the case of such a person, what point is there in arranging them to
Consummate?
Teacher: You feel it’s not
meaningful, but others find it meaningful! Non-cultivators all feel quite
satisfied with achieving even a little bit of accomplishment among everyday
people. They feel that it’s quite meaningful and that they are really enjoying
their lives. Isn’t that how it works? As different cultivators Consummate at
certain levels, it is meaningful to them!
Student: I’ve been studying the
Fa and doing the exercises for more than one year. But every time I do the
standing exercises, I can’t stop myself from constantly yawning and having
tears stream down my face. Is it because I haven’t let go of some attachments?
Teacher: No. Yawning is a
cultivation state. It appears frequently at the initial stage of cultivation.
But it doesn’t always occur. This state is not fixed. During the initial stage,
when the qi developed inside the body has been pushed to the head and
needs to be expelled, yawning might occur. It’s not anything bad. During the
initial stage as the body is being adjusted, the elimination of illnesses in
the head will also cause this to occur. It’s a phenomenon in the cultivation
process.
Student: When people
insist on holding onto their own opinions on a certain matter, how can one
distinguish attachments from holding onto one’s opinion? For example, when
people have different opinions on a certain matter but only one approach can be
adopted, and every single opinion is the manifestation of the Fa at different
levels, should one deal with the matter according to one’s own understanding or
the decision of the group? How can every disciple’s taking the Fa as the
Teacher be put into practice?
Teacher: When dealing with
an issue and presented with different opinions, after discussing the matter,
you should put Dafa first and shouldn’t overly emphasize your own idea. After a
final decision is made, you should work together to carry out the task well.
When people insist on holding onto their own opinions and spend a long time
arguing over the matter but are unable to reach a consensus, they are being
used by demons or demon nature that is damaging the Fa. Insisting on holding
onto your own opinion stubbornly and refusing to let go is an attachment to
“self.”
Student: A person’s opinion on
a matter will cause his own notions to develop. But the difference between a
cultivator and an everyday person lies in the state of mind that he has when
dealing with his own notions. An everyday person is attached to the correctness
of his own notions and thus hopes other people will agree with him. In
contrast, a cultivator has his own opinions but doesn’t impose them on other
people. Is this understanding correct?
Teacher: It’s not
absolutely correct. That is because a cultivator wouldn’t easily form notions
among everyday people, and he puts the Fa above all else. He uses the Fa to
break through the delusions and eliminate human notions, and uses the Fa to
judge everything. Besides using determined righteous thoughts to uphold the Fa,
he does things of everyday people naturally and without pursuit. He has no
attachment to whether it can be accomplished or not, so even less so should he
have rigid notions.
How should Dafa disciples deal
with having arguments? Do you deal with it with upright thoughts? Especially
when there are intense conflicts due to differences of opinion, you should look
at yourself and see where you stand in your own heart. Is it 100% on the Fa?
What is your insistence on holding onto your own opinion based on? You must
look at the root of that thought.
Student: One of our students
has a pessimistic attitude, saying that he might be a being within the Three
Realms and it’s possible that he can’t get out of the Three Realms no matter
how hard he tries. Is his thinking correct?
Teacher: Who told him that
he is a being within the Three Realms? I’ve never told anyone that he can’t
cultivate. I tell you that I don’t care about who you are, and I don’t care
what you came here for; even if you were born to damage the Fa, I still offer
you salvation. (Applause)
Did you know that the number of
Dafa students today is really quite large? If we ourselves didn’t do well, with
such a large group of people the consequences would be great. Then certain
government agencies would start to pay attention. As a matter of fact, there
have always been people who want to see what’s going on [in Falun Dafa]. Some
people who work as spies are practicing alongside the students and observing,
watching what they’re doing. Do you know how I view the situation? No matter
what kind of job he does, he is a sentient being. He is first a being. In my
attitude toward them, I simply regard them as people with different jobs. No
matter what kinds of thoughts they had when they first entered this environment
of ours, I treat all of them with benevolent thoughts. As long as he wants to
cultivate, I will be responsible for him. So when many of these people from
governmental agencies who came to get to know Dafa found out that we have
nothing to hide and that there’s nothing bad about us, and moreover they
started to think Dafa was so good, they started to study Dafa in earnest. Later
on, they told our students, “Do you know who I am? I’m an infiltrator. I
realized how good you are. Now I’m going to learn it!” (Applause)
I say that our Dafa isn’t afraid
of being understood by others. Every single student and every single volunteer
of ours behaves this way: “You’ve come here to get to know us. Whatever you
want to know, I’ll tell you. Whatever you want to see, I’ll take it out and
show it to you.” There’s nothing hidden. Everything is conducted in an upright
and open manner. That’s because this is the only piece of pure land in the
human world. Before they get to know Dafa, today’s people believe there aren’t
any good people anymore. If they don’t know us and don’t step into this
environment, they truly won’t believe that there are these good people in this
world.
Student: When I’ve just woken
up or I am walking around, a part of my brain will frequently recite certain
paragraphs of Zhuan Falun, yet my main consciousness is thinking about everyday
people’s things. Is the side of myself that has completed cultivation doing the
reciting?
Teacher: Yes, this kind of
state may occur. The side of you that has been fully cultivated is clear-minded
and is anxious about this human side that hasn’t cultivated well and is not
making diligent progress.
Student: My husband asked
questions during the Eastern U.S. Conference that took place in New York in
March. Teacher encouraged him and told him to cleanse his inner self, change
himself completely, and start anew. He knows he should follow Teacher’s words
and genuinely cultivate; but my husband has remained stuck in a state of deep
regret and self-criticism, and can’t get out of it. There is also strong
demonic interference. This has been going on for more than four months now.
Teacher: It is because your
husband’s main consciousness is too weak and can’t maintain control of him with
a clear head. I told him that he was wrong, and then he got stuck in a state of
self-blame. He has gone to the other extreme and become attached to it. Demons
then again took advantage of this incorrect thinking of his, and are
interfering with him.
Student: Can he still
cultivate?
Teacher: You have to ask
him that question. Why have I said that mental patients can’t cultivate?
Everyone knows that this Dafa of ours is for the cultivation of your main
consciousness. It means that it is given to you yourself. You have to cultivate
yourself with a clear consciousness. All previous cultivation methods,
including all previous religions, were for the cultivation of the assistant
consciousness. After a person died, his primordial spirit still underwent
reincarnation like before. The part that met the standard was able to ascend to
heaven, but that was not your real self but the assistant spirit. This was a
mystery from the beginning of time, and couldn’t be revealed in the past.
Today, in order to impart this Dafa and enable you to truly be saved, I have
unveiled these mysteries from the beginning of time, the secret of secrets, and
the heavenly secrets of the heavenly secrets to all sentient beings. If you
can’t cultivate yourself, and you yourself are not clear-minded, who am I
giving this Fa to? Who am I asking to obtain it? So your main consciousness has
to be clear. If you’re not clear, then it won’t work. So, I have repeatedly
told everyone that you have to cultivate in a rational, upright, and dignified
manner.
Student: When doing the
meditation, can I use a cushion to raise my bottom and support my lower back?
Teacher: You can do it for
the time being. I have to allow you to go through a process as you do the
exercises. In the future, though, you won’t be able to do that because you will
have surely practiced it well.
Student: In my dream, Master
told me that if I could turn what’s real into what’s false and eliminate all
that’s false through my cultivation, then I would complete my cultivation.
Teacher: This needs to be
looked at from two sides. First, in the eyes of gods, this reality of human
society isn’t real. In addition, this is a hint about the real things that you
are attached to, and is a hint for that side of you that has specific
attachments. I can only tell you about it this way. You can’t have me explain
to you the words that were meant as hints for you. Otherwise why would I have
given you the hint in the first place?
Student: Is there any
special meaning in the sequence that the words “Zhen, Shan, and Ren” appear in?
Teacher: It’s all
encompassing. “Zhen” contains “Zhen, Shan, Ren.” “Shan” contains “Zhen, Shan,
Ren,” too. And “Ren” also contains “Zhen, Shan, Ren.”
Student: When talking
about the Buddha school and the Dao school in Zhuan Falun, Master usually
places the Dao school ahead of the Buddha school. Does this have anything
to do with the sequence that “Zhen, Shan, Ren” appears in?
Teacher: You shouldn’t
focus your attention on matters like this. There is no special relationship
here. I find it smooth to say “Buddhas, Daos, and Gods.” I could say “Daos,
Buddhas, and Gods,” but it would sound awkward. Or I could say “Gods, Daos, and
Buddhas,” but it just doesn’t feel as smooth. Saying “Zhen, Shan, Ren” feels so
smooth! I could switch them just fine, but they would sound awkward. However I
say it, that’s how all of you should say it.
Student: I’m a serious and
careful person who is also impatient. I feel that this state of mind has become
a barrier to my cultivation.
Teacher: It’s definitely a
barrier. It’s very good that you can sense this.
Student: Is this caused
by postnatally acquired notions and karma? Or is it caused by my original, unique
characteristics?
Teacher: It’s caused by
notions. This type of notion is developed over a long period of time. Whenever
you encounter things, it causes you to fall into this type of notion. Its
characteristics are so-called carefulness, seriousness, and impatience. It has
developed into something of a habit. You have the ability to get rid of it
completely.
Student: Master said that
wanting to cultivate in such a difficult environment is truly remarkable. But
in my case, I feel I must cultivate because I feel that living in the human
world is too painful and boring. Is that because I’m unable to endure any
suffering at all?
Teacher: This isn’t the
case. What I described is the way that all the gods think of human beings. But
your feelings are the normal feelings of the people of the world. Human society
definitely has a lot of suffering. Beings in all other dimensions are able to
fly and float everywhere. They are able to become big or small. It’s all very
natural for them. Only the human and the skin-shell dimensions appear like
this. From the moment you were first born you have been constrained by
everything in this dimension. You get tired when you walk, if you don’t eat you
feel hungry, if you don’t drink you get thirsty, if you don’t wear enough clothes
you feel cold, and so on. This is the suffering that comes naturally with
entering into this dimension. Of course, there are also xinxing
conflicts among people, the manifestations of karma, and the continuous
creation of karma due to ignorance. There is also suffering that has not yet
been detected by people, suffering that can’t be clearly defined, so humankind
is just full of suffering.
Student: A Dafa student had a
question. He said that whenever he touches metal, electricity is emitted from his
hands. This has been going on for more than a year. Master, does this mean that
he has remained at the same level?
Teacher: No. For human
beings, a great deal of all of the energy that emerges from a person during
cultivation—which is to say, your gong and the transformations of your
body—carries electricity. Human beings are most sensitive to the elements of
electricity. In reality, electricity is the manifestation of a type of energy.
Speaking from another angle, if someone hasn’t been diligent enough in certain
areas of his cultivation or has fallen just a little bit short in certain
areas, this could also be a hint to him. There’s another situation: when a
person improves his level during his cultivation, he will make breakthroughs at
the surface of his body, too; there might be a difference in how his
corresponding ability to ward off electricity develops. In that case, too, this
type of manifestation will occur. This is a minor thing and doesn’t have any
importance, but it will be taken care of well for you.
Student: Some people in Sydney
are attacking Dafa. A student thinks that we should file a lawsuit against
them. I feel that it would be using everyday people’s ways to fight with
everyday people. Is my thinking right or wrong?
Teacher: First, I want to
affirm that student: having the desire to uphold Dafa isn’t wrong. We need to
look at how those people are damaging the Fa. If they have caused a certain
level of impact on Dafa, then, from the perspective of students upholding Dafa,
using legal channels to get it resolved isn’t wrong. Of course, we should try
our best not to get involved in these things. But if it must be resolved
through legal channels, it’s not out of the realm of possibility. But because
we are offering people salvation, we should always leave a way out for people
and give people a chance. Even if they had inadvertently damaged the Fa, we
should still allow them to have a process of coming to understand us. You can
go and talk to them. If they go on behaving as they are, then for us to use
legal channels isn’t out of the realm of possibility. That’s because the
Australia Falun Dafa Association is a legal, registered group and legal in the
eyes of the law, and shouldn’t be attacked by people at will. But, many things
like that have to do with your individual cultivation. Don’t fail to look at
yourself. You should see if it is caused by your own attachments, or maybe by
certain factors caused by the attachments that you haven’t eliminated.
Student: My question is this.
More than tens of thousands of states are displayed during the process of
cultivation. How can we judge whether we have correctly dealt with the states
that are displayed in the process of cultivation?
Teacher: All the feelings
and states that are displayed in the process of individual cultivation should
be treated as normal states during cultivation. Everyone wants to pass each
test well in the process of cultivation, and also wants to know if he has
really passed the tests well or not. In reality, if you are truly able to
remain unmoved in the face of self-interest, you have passed the test; if you
are truly able to search for causes within yourself in the face of conflicts
and thus rectify yourself first, you have passed the test; if you are able to
let go of your attachments amidst all kinds of tribulations, you have passed
the test. Of course, there are different degrees of passing the test. Some
students are able to handle everything well. Some students are able to handle
them well on the surface but are not able to let go of them deep down within.
Some appear to be quite good but still feel a bit uneasy inside. That means
that they have kept a little bit of those [attachments]. It’s not difficult to
determine.
But is this to say that everyone
has to pass every test well and that you wouldn’t meet the standard of
cultivation if you didn’t pass the test? Is this to say that you’re no good?
That isn’t the case. Let me tell everyone that cultivation is to cultivate
one’s mind. Let me explain it even more clearly. In the face of self-interest,
in the face of anger and hatred, in the midst of conflicts among people, you
will be provoked. If you can truly remain unmoved, then I would say you are
really extraordinary! Whenever you haven’t passed a test well, you think, “Since
I haven’t passed this test well, does this mean that I’m no good?” The answer
is no. Some people’s understandings are a little higher, while some people’s
understandings are a little lower. Some people have passed that test well, some
people have done a little worse, while some people haven’t passed the test well
at all. But you all know you should feel regret, and you are upset with
yourselves for coming up short. Then you should make up your mind and try to
pass the test well next time so as to compensate for coming up short this time.
When the test comes up next time, you will be determined to pass it well. And
in fact, that’s exactly what cultivation is. If you could pass every single
test, I’d say that it would no longer be cultivation. In that case I, your
Master, wouldn’t have lived up to my responsibility and would have arranged
tests that were too small for you, which resulted in your not being able to
improve your xinxing through them. Wouldn’t that be the case?
Student: Japanese disciples
send their greetings to Master!
Teacher: Thank you,
everyone! (Applause)
Student: I have been
cultivating for more than three years now. My mother passed away last March.
She had also cultivated for three years. I often bitterly regret many things
that I didn’t do well, which resulted in bigger tribulations for her. I blame
myself for not being able to be genuinely helpful to her from the perspective
of the Fa when she was faced with the test of life and death, because I didn’t
clearly see the solemn nature of Dafa at that time.
Teacher: There is nothing
to blame yourself for. If you blame yourself too much, it becomes an
attachment. Each of you is in the process of cultivation, and it’s very likely
that you may do some things incorrectly. But you don’t play the defining role
for other people, especially when the other persons are cultivators themselves.
Cultivation is every individual’s own business. If she had been able to remain
unaffected and handle herself well in the face of interference, then it would really
be called cultivation. [You say that] other people didn’t do well and the help
that they gave her was too small. Well, if a cultivator relies on other
people’s help, it’s not called her own cultivation. There is really nothing for
you to blame yourself over here. If you have come up short, you should learn
those lessons and do even better. Look at it from many angles! Maybe it’s not
as bad as you imagined it to be. Maybe whoever has learned Dafa has not studied
it in vain. Maybe your Consummation in the future will result in her being
saved.
Student: Could you talk to us
about the structure of matter?
Teacher: What a broad
question! The structure of matter at which level? The structure of what type of
matter? It’s very complicated. Science has already come to understand the
surface arrangements of molecules. The structure of matter can’t be explained
in its entirety. I couldn’t explain it in its entirety even if I spent several
days talking about it. When I have explained the concept of the cosmos to you,
I’ve still been using human understandings, human thinking, and human
vocabulary to the maximum extent possible. It’s very limited and general. Even
then, I was only talking generally about one type of matter’s way of existence.
Also, human language is extremely deficient and limited, as humankind doesn’t
have the words and vocabulary to describe that.
Student: How does the time
sequence of events that take place in this dimension of ours manifest in other
dimensions that don’t have the concept of time? Are they displayed directly
based on the time period?
Teacher: The other day, a
young man asked me, “One plus one equals two, this is a truth.” I said, “It’s a
truth among everyday people. I say that once it’s out of this dimension, it’s
no longer the truth. It’s not the truth in different space-times.” That is to
say, in different space-times you can’t measure it using human concepts, as the
beings there likewise have their own ways of calculating time, ways of
existence, and ways of understanding things. They are completely different.
What is good or bad and what is positive or negative are all different from how
humans understand them.
Student: Everyone has his own
karma to repay. One has to shoulder his own karma, and other people shouldn’t
casually interfere. If someone’s life is in danger, how should a person who is
cultivating deal with it?
Teacher: I have talked
about this matter many times. Even though cultivators don’t interfere with
matters of everyday people, if you watch a person committing terrible crimes
and you do nothing, that’s a xinxing problem. The “without intention” (wu-wei)
that I’ve talked about refers to the fact that you shouldn’t be bent on finding
certain things to do while holding onto certain attachments.
Student: Hong Kong students
send their greetings to Master!
Teacher: Thank you all! (Applause)
Student: When reading the book
Zhuan Falun, other distracting thoughts enter into my mind as I’m reading. How
should I correctly regard and handle these problems?
Teacher: This is all quite
natural, everyone will run into this problem. But you must overcome it. This is
caused by the postnatally formed notions in your mind and karma created in your
thoughts. They are interfering with your cultivation and obtaining the Fa.
Resist them: “I must concentrate on reading the book and studying the Fa with
determination.” Doing so is itself eliminating them. Because it’s the Fa, your
studying the Fa is eliminating them. You must not let them affect you. If your
eyes are reading the book but your mind isn’t there, and you don’t even know
how each word should be pronounced, that isn’t acceptable. It’s the same as
reading in vain.
Student: It seems that whenever
I have been faced with a xinxing test, I’ve felt that I passed it at the time.
But when I take a look at it in retrospect, I find that I didn’t pass the test
well, or didn’t pass the test at all. Is this feeling due to an elevation in my
level?
Teacher: Right, if you’ve
elevated your level through cultivation, you will feel that way when you take a
look back. In reality, it’s because the standard has become higher and thus the
requirements are higher.
Let’s take a ten minute break,
okay?
(Students present Master with
fresh flower bouquets, expressing their highest respect to Master.) (Applause)
Teacher: Thank you,
everyone! (Applause). These flowers look quite expensive. You don’t need
to spend this kind of money. We don’t worry about these things. But still, I
thank everyone. (Applause)
Student: Some students
had learned other practices in the past and can perform the meditation for two
to three hours. They always think that they are better than those students who
can’t perform the meditation well, and they don’t pay attention to studying the
Fa or cultivating their xinxing. Master, please clarify this matter for us.
Teacher: No matter what
kind of condition a person’s body is in to start with, things will be different
once he truly enters Dafa. Some students used to do sports. Some students used
to dance. Their legs were very flexible, and they were able to sit in
full-lotus position right away, very easily. But was that doing the exercise?
No. If they truly wanted to cultivate, they would find that things are
different; they might find that though they have the legs of a dancer, they can
no longer do full-lotus. And it will feel quite painful. That’s because the leg
crossing of a cultivator definitely can’t be just simply sitting with legs
crossed without any mechanism. That’s because this is cultivation, and
everything of yours is for the sake of and is ensuring your improvement, and
that includes the meditation. Meditation is good only if it can truly eliminate
your karma and improve your xinxing. Otherwise, no matter how long you
can sit with your legs crossed, what good does it do? If it’s not able to
eliminate your karma, if it’s not able to have any effect on your cultivation,
and you simply cross your legs for the sake of crossing your legs, then no
matter how long you can sit in full-lotus, what good does it do? Isn’t that
true? I’m not criticizing anyone here. I am just expounding on the principles
of the Fa. I have never said that those who can sit with their legs crossed for
a long time are at high levels or talked about how well they have cultivated.
If you learned other practices in the past or used to do dance, sports, or
other things and it wasn’t painful to cross your legs before, and crossing your
legs now feels the same as how you felt when you crossed your legs in the past
and it hasn’t changed, then this is no small matter! You can’t let Dafa simply
brush against you and pass you by. If you haven’t truly studied the Fa, you
won’t appreciate the preciousness of this Fa. Meanwhile, those who can’t cross
their legs shouldn’t get too worried. If it turns into an attachment, that too
creates barriers. Take your time. You should first put your legs in half-lotus,
and eventually you will be able to do the full-lotus position. People who are
in their eighties and had never sat in full-lotus are now able to. Why can’t
you do the same? Everyone is able to sit in full-lotus.
Student: I have studied the Fa
for several years now. But I still feel that I’m very far from [the state of
having] “insight into all mysteries.”
Teacher: As a matter of
fact, let me tell you that it is your human part on the surface that hasn’t
cultivated well and that wants to know about gods. Also, it’s the postnatally
acquired notions and thought karma in your mind that are attached to such
things. How could those things be allowed to know about divine things? In
addition, you aren’t able make out clearly what are your own correct thoughts.
In the process of your cultivation, as you read Zhuan Falun and suddenly
enlighten to a Fa-principle, you are already at that level. Otherwise the
Fa-principle at that level absolutely would not be revealed to you. Then why is
it you’re not allowed to know everything at once? It is because the side of you
that hasn’t completed cultivation is absolutely not allowed to know about Gods
and Buddhas, while the side of you that has completed cultivation has been
separated. You can only gradually understand principles at even higher levels
through studying the Fa, which is already a way of revealing things to you. The
side of a cultivator that has completed cultivation, however, is able to reach
that standard instantly. The part that has completed cultivation is able to
understand all the principles in the cosmos at his level instantly. Many
students can’t think of any questions to raise as soon as they see me. It seems
that they don’t have anything to say. In reality, it’s that you have already
understood everything. The side of you that has completed cultivation
immediately becomes alert once you see me, and thus the surface human skin that
hasn’t completed cultivation becomes clear on things. But this human side,
which hasn’t completed cultivation, always has questions to ask. So as soon as
you leave me, the human surface suddenly thinks of questions to ask: “Oops, how
come I didn’t ask Teacher about that question I have?” Many people are like
that.
Student: I’ve always paid
attention to and researched elements of the cultivation process and what
interferes with diligent cultivation of Buddha-Fa, in order to enable me to
cultivate better.
Teacher: There’s
nothing to research there. There is only the problem of attachments. I can’t
explain the Fa-principles to you any clearer than I have. In the past people
had to enlighten to all of these things themselves. But I have explained all of
them. Be sure not to study the Fa with the mentality of doing research on Dafa.
When encountering problems, you should just look for problems with your
thinking. They are definitely the cause of your problem. Once you eliminate
your attachment, it is guaranteed you will pass that test. You will be able to
handle the matter well and will be able to elevate yourself.
Student: I often share
experiences and understandings with those whose understandings of the Fa are
relatively close to mine and have the same enlightenment on certain issues. Is
this an attachment?
Teacher: That depends on
whether your desire of being close to those students with whom you can converse
easily contains any other human desires. If it doesn’t, it’s not a big deal. If
it contains any incorrect element, it is very likely to become a barrier that
prevents you from cultivating diligently.
Student:
When encountering different understandings of the Fa or different enlightenment
to a certain matter, how can I dispel my own rigid notions and elevate myself
better?
Teacher:
As a cultivator, you can’t improve with others at the same level at the same
time. So it’s likely that you and other students have different views and
different understandings of Fa-principles. Your different understanding of the
Fa at every single minute level leads to differences among you. Every single
student is improving and advancing diligently. But it’s possible that your
understandings of the Fa are all different. No matter what, in everything you
do, including doing Dafa work, you should do your best to put Dafa as the top
priority, put validating Dafa and saving the people of the world as the top
priority and have validating Dafa as the primary basis of your thinking. When
spreading the Fa to everyday people, you need to act in such a way that
everyday people can understand, and demonstrate to everyday people things that
are based on the most surface principles of the Fa. No matter how high the
level of Fa-principles that you have come to understand and how high you have
cultivated to, you actually can’t explain them with words and can only
understand in your heart. You can’t use principles that are beyond the ordinary
to work with everyday people, but you also can’t confuse yourself with everyday
people.
Student:
Master has said that none of the beings in any of the other dimensions have
this body that we humans do.
Teacher:
That’s correct. None has the body that’s made up of the molecules of this human
level. But at not-so-high levels outside of the Three Realms, there are a very
small number of special cases where this exists.
Student:
“They therefore won’t become ill, neither will there be the problems of birth,
aging, illness, and death. There wouldn’t exist such suffering. People in other
dimensions can levitate, and they are weightless, it’s quite wonderful.” Then
why is it that people can still suffer after they die, after they have escaped
from this layer of shell that’s the human flesh body?
Teacher:
That’s because people haven’t left the Three Realms after they die. People
within the Three Realms are all called humans and therefore are all suffering.
The only difference is that the higher their places within the Three Realms,
the slightly better off they are when compared with those who are at lower
levels than them. People in the human world are actually not those who suffer
the most. As a matter of fact, there are beings that are at even lower levels
than that of humans. In addition, there is hell and there are actually many
levels that are lower than hell. When compared to Gods, humans suffer the most.
The issues of birth, aging, illness, and death exist throughout the Three
Realms, and are not limited to only humans. After leaving the human body, the
primordial spirit of an ordinary person won’t be able to escape from the Three
Realms. He is still within the Three Realms and will still have to go back up
and go through reincarnation after death. At various levels within the Three
Realms that are higher than the human level, there is much less suffering than
what humans go through. If one is worse off than a human being and at a level
lower than the human level, then his suffering will be more than that of
humans. The people at various levels within the Three Realms are collectively
called humans. But the people in the heavens call us people on earth “humans,”
and call people in the heavens “celestial humans.”
Student:
Nanjing city disciples send greetings to you!
Teacher:
Thank you everyone! (Applause)
Student:
All of the Shenzhen city disciples send greetings to Teacher!
Teacher:
Thank you everyone! (Applause)
Student:
I came into contact with Dafa a year ago. I feel very good about it. But I have
religious beliefs and don’t want to give them up. According to the requirement
of Dafa, one must practice only one cultivation way. It’s hard for me to choose
between Dafa and religion. Please tell me what I should do.
Teacher:
It’s better to ask yourself the question. You’re the one who decides what you
want to choose. But I have explained things very clearly in terms of the
Fa-principles. Even though you are the one walking your own path, I have told
all of you the true situation in the cultivation world. Back when I was
spreading the Fa in China, as soon as I began my class in whatever place, it
was guaranteed that a sham qigong practice would start a class in a
place nearby. People decide for themselves whether they want righteousness or
evil. We are holding a Fa conference here today. Isn’t some religious
organization holding some meeting around here? Anyhow, it is evil old forces
using the principle of mutual-generation and mutual-inhibition to interfere
with people’s obtaining salvation. It appears to be quite easy for people to
obtain the Fa. But in reality, it’s not easy. At present, none of the upright
religions have gods overseeing them anymore, and the people in those religions
are fighting for money, profit, and status. Why people believe in religion is a
big question. I have explained these principles very clearly. Whether to
believe in one or not and what you choose are your own affair. You can cultivate
whatever you want to cultivate, and you don’t have to cultivate if you don’t
want to. I look only at people’s hearts here, and don’t have anything that’s
mere formality.
Student: When reaching
Consummation, Dafa disciples’ bodies will be in two kinds of states. One is
that the body will have been replaced by high-energy matter, and the other is
that the body will have been replaced by the Immortal Infant. Is this
understanding correct?
Teacher: I’m giving you
whatever is the best. But everyone’s situation is different. In certain
situations the person won’t want to take the flesh body even if it’s given to
him, because if he took the flesh body with him when he goes back to his world,
the gods there would feel it was quite strange, and so he wouldn’t take it.
There are students who will say that they want to have everything. But in fact,
you are using human thinking to consider these things. When you understand and
become enlightened, you will absolutely not look at things that way whatsoever.
That’s because at that time, you won’t have any human thoughts and will
consider matters completely on the basis of that realm. As a matter of fact,
anything can be cultivated through Dafa cultivation practice. Students will
have whatever they need, for this is the ultimate Fa of the cosmos.
Student: Are all of the
disciples’ guardian gods of the Fa appointed by Master?
Teacher: Cultivation in a
righteous Fa is looked after and safeguarded by the Master, gods, and celestial
soldiers. But, don’t use terms and concepts from other religions, as those
carry impure elements. Let’s set aside you, cultivators of Dafa, for a moment:
even when it comes to many of those people dressed in dirty, ragged clothing,
carrying a pile of shabby cotton quilts, and sleeping wherever they happen to
be—those people appear to be beggars, but around them are Heavenly Law
Guardians protecting them. Can people tell who a given person really is? No,
people can’t, since people see things with human eyes. Why is it that some
students become braver right after taking up cultivation, whereas in the past
they didn’t dare to walk in the dark, and now they dare to after cultivating in
Dafa? All of it has a reason.
Student: All the students from
Jingde township in Jiangxi province send their greetings to Master!
Teacher: Thank you
everyone! (Applause)
Student: If, in everyday
people’s society, I accepted benefits provided to disabled people, after
obtaining the Fa should I no longer accept those benefits? I’m afraid that by
accepting those benefits I can’t pay back the karma.
Teacher: This issue needs
to be looked at from two angles. If you are a disabled person, and supposing
you can’t work, you have no resources to live on, and this country has this
policy, then I think it’s fine. That is because what I have told you to do is
to cultivate while conforming to everyday people to the maximum extent. Also, I
don’t look at these kinds of forms, I look only at a person’s heart. If that’s
just how today’s human society is, the laws have stipulated it, and society
allows you to do this, then in this regard you can conform to it to the maximum
extent. If, however, that ailment that caused the disability has already been
healed through Dafa and yet you still accept those benefits without telling the
government, then that’s a xinxing problem. It should be looked at that
way. There are also other forms of welfare benefits, so as long as you meet the
terms as set forth by everyday society, there is no problem with accepting
them.
Student: When thought karma or
other messages interfere while doing the exercises, they run their course
before I can even dispel them.
Teacher: If it happened too
quickly and you couldn’t react to it in time, it doesn’t mean that you haven’t
cultivated well. On the other hand, if you let it run its course while knowing
that it’s wrong, that means that you haven’t cultivated yourself. If you allow
it to dictate your actions, that would be behaving like an everyday person.
Actually, when you detect it, if you can realize that it’s not you, realize
that thoughts like those are not correct, then you are in fact dispelling it.
If the foundation you have established through studying the Fa from day to day
was a little more solid, then it would be much better. Everyday people don’t do
cultivation, and absolutely can’t recognize things of this sort, they believe
that all thoughts are their own. In the end the notions formed among everyday
people dictate everything that people do, yet people believe that they are
doing it themselves. At that point the people themselves have been buried,
covered up, are no longer exerting any function, and are no longer those people
themselves whatsoever. Nowadays the people in society all live like that. Yet
they actually think—and people actually praise them—that they’re so great, that
they’re not likely to be taken advantage of, they’re not likely to be cheated,
they’re capable, they’re super-experienced… I’d say a person like that is
foolish to the extreme. He hasn’t led his own life, he has turned it over to
something else to live for him, and his body has been controlled by something
else.
Student: Even though I’ve
taken measures to clearly distinguish what is myself, I still can’t completely
stop it.
Teacher: If you were to
say, “I don’t want you,” and it just died, that would be too straightforward.
When you can clearly distinguish it, you yourself are getting stronger, you
yourself are awakening and enlightening, you yourself are breaking through its
encirclement, and getting progressively stronger, while it becomes
progressively weaker and progressively disappears, until the point where it’s
ultimately eliminated. There needs to be a process.
Student: Will that bring bad
things to my gong?
Teacher: No. Because your
righteous thoughts are exerting their effect. When you aren’t vigilant your
gaps will be taken advantage of, but your gong will not be interfered
with, because Master is looking after it. If you study the Fa a lot, maintain
righteous thoughts, and can look inward and inspect yourself for shortcomings
when encountering problems, it will be frightened to no end just from that. It
would know that being exposed would lead to its elimination, and that it is
being destroyed.
Student: If in one’s
lifetime, one still can’t cultivate to Consummation, is it possible to go to a
paradise with karma? And to continue practicing cultivation in the Falun
Paradise, just like with the Paradise of Ultimate Bliss?
Teacher: The cosmos is
undergoing Fa-rectification and celestial bodies are being re-constructed. After
Fa-rectification everything will be in the best state, so those who don’t meet
the standard can’t become beings at levels higher than their standard; wherever
their standard is, that’s where they are. In fact, let me tell all of you, in
the past the Paradise of Ultimate Bliss did have that phenomenon [you
described], but it’s hard to say whether that will be the case after
Fa-rectification. Going to a paradise with karma is not like what people
imagine it to be. People have distorted it with human emotions and
characteristics. What is “going to a paradise with karma”? Let me tell you,
those who are truly able to go to a paradise with karma will have already in
fact reached the standard in terms of determination and faith. The most
difficult test for people, the test that must be passed during cultivation, is
to let go of life and death. Of course, not everyone has to be confronted with
the test of losing his life, but it’s not altogether impossible that this will
happen. When each person faces his own most difficult test, when he is tested
to see whether he can let go of his biggest attachment, he is in fact being
tested on whether he can let it go. If he is able to let go of life and death,
he is a god; if he isn’t able to let go of life and death, he is human. Of
course, being able to let go of life and death doesn’t equate to actually
dying: the purpose of cultivating is to remove human attachments. A person is
dying and his mind has no sense of fear over death at all—can an everyday
person achieve that? Consider what it feels like to be facing imminent death.
Could someone without any cultivation foundation or mental foundation achieve
that? A person who doesn’t fear death at all, even when he is about to die,
will still be chanting “Buddha,” and not only does he have no fear, but while
chanting “Buddha” a thought of joy will arise inside him, leaving him with a
kind of joy over Buddha. Tell me then: could such a person go to hell? He let
go of life and death because of determined, righteous thoughts. That to begin
with is not the act of a human being—what human doesn’t fear death! As he is
chanting “Buddha” [in those circumstances], how could a Buddha not accept him
upon seeing a person like that? Of course, he still has karma since he hasn’t
cultivated diligently, and he still has unremoved attachments, so what can be
done about this? He is taken to a place very close to the Paradise of Ultimate
Bliss, where he will continue to cultivate—to cultivate for tens of thousands
of years, or hundreds of thousands of years, and when he reaches the standard
he will go to the Paradise of Ultimate Bliss. Why does he need to cultivate for
such a long time? Because after all, that place has no suffering, and without
suffering cultivation is slow. So why is cultivation fast in this place of
humans? And within one lifetime—just several decades—why is it possible to
complete cultivation? And it’s even faster for my Dafa disciples, since this
place of humans has suffering. Everyone was born from a mother’s womb and is in
the same condition. Not knowing what it’s like to not suffer, people don’t feel
as if they are suffering. In fact, in the eyes of Gods, humans suffer a lot.
Cultivation in Dafa will absolutely not be in vain. Some people aren’t diligent
in their personal cultivation, or perhaps they just aren’t diligent enough or
have relatively poor capacity for awakening. Once their lives end they will
receive something and be taken care of. For those who have the desire to go on
cultivating in the next lifetime, everything that they have cultivated will be
kept, and it won’t have been in vain. They will reincarnate and bring along
what they obtained, and continue to cultivate after they reincarnate. There are
some people, though, who truly cannot keep cultivating, in which case it will
be arranged for them to receive rewards in their next life; they might become
high-ranking officials or make a fortune. Of course, this isn’t what we
cultivators are after. But that is what happens with those who can’t go on
cultivating.
But there’s another point. Let’s
say a practitioner’s son has reached Consummation, and even though this
[father] practitioner cultivated, he himself doesn’t reach Consummation. Then I
think it’s possible that his son will take him to the son’s paradise to be a sentient
being there, though one without an Attainment Status. He would be a sentient
being, or in other words, common folk. There are other sentient beings in a
Buddha’s paradise as well. He won’t be the type of filthy being found on the
earth, though, but instead, a celestial being who has reached the standard of
that realm.
Student: Changchun disciples
send their greetings to respected Master!
Teacher: Thank you
everyone! (Applause)
Student: Is the attachment to
“self” the most difficult attachment to get rid of?
Teacher: Of course.
Everyone who lives in the world is living for himself, and many selfish
attachments arise out of this. Once selfishness appears, it becomes easy for
one to be affected by emotion, and during cultivation, things that are difficult
to let go of and cut ties from manifest everywhere, and it becomes difficult to
let go of these attachments during cultivation. Sometimes when you do things
for Dafa, the attachment of defending and protecting your own role appears, as
well; for example, you defend and protect your own reputation and wants. For
everyday people it becomes even more complex: they have desires such as wanting
to become an official, glorify their ancestors, get others to praise them, get
rich, and be superior to others. Defending and protecting what one desires is a
manifestation of emotion and selfishness, so it is the hardest thing to stop
doing. You should treat everyone compassionately and look for causes in
yourself when encountering any problem. Even if others badmouth us or hit us,
we should all look within ourselves—“Was it caused by my being wrong in some
regard?” This enables you to find the root cause of the conflict, and it is the
best way to remove the attachment to selfishness. Have a bigger and bigger heart,
to the point where in your personal cultivation you can forgive everyone,
including forgiving your enemies. That’s because what you refer to as enemies
is defined as such by humans for the sake of their own benefit and gain, and
that is not what gods would do. So the requirement is high—how could gods treat
humans as enemies? Then in the course of cultivation, we should always consider
others first when encountering anything. When you gain something that belongs
to someone else, you have to think about the other person—how might it
negatively impact him? Won’t he feel sad? With everything you should think of
others—first think about others, and then think about yourself. I want you to
cultivate to reach the kind of Consummation that is of a righteous Fa, with
righteous enlightenment, and is one in which others come before yourself. That
is removing selfishness, being able to remove “self.” The part of you that has
completed cultivation is guaranteed to resemble what I just described, it’s
fully like that. So looking at things from where you are, if when you encounter
problems you are able to look for the causes on your part, think more about the
welfare of others, cultivate yourselves, look inside, look less at others’
shortcomings, and manage to do as I teach with everything you do, then in fact
you are already progressing diligently.
Student: In recent years,
I have been continually involved in the affairs at a Buddhist temple. From
studying the Fa I have come to feel there is a conflict of interest, but I don’t
know how to deal with it. I know that I should let go of my attachments, but I
find it difficult to give up my responsibilities there. Please tell me how to
handle it.
Teacher: Actually, it
couldn’t be simpler. Why can’t you let go of that? You say that what you can’t
let go of is a responsibility. That’s an everyday people’s standard, but does
that have anything to do with cultivating Buddhahood? What you can’t let go of
is ordinary human emotion. Is that responsibility something that Buddha sees as
important? Then to whom are you being responsible? Is it being responsible to
religion itself? Could your responsibility bring a person to Consummation?!
Then can your responsibility lead you yourself to Consummation? If you can’t
reach Consummation, what are you attached to that for? Don’t you have to be
responsible to your own, true Consummation? Should you, for the sake of your
so-called responsibility, stay attached all your life, letting Dafa pass you by
after having brushed up against it? Or should you truly seize this opportunity
and be responsible to your true cultivation and pursuit of true Consummation?
This is a really simple matter, isn’t it? When someone does things with
intention (you-wei), he will absolutely not reach Consummation. Even if
you were cultivating in that temple, if an attachment like that to a supposed
“responsibility” weren’t removed, even Buddha would be disgusted upon seeing
it. Don’t think that because you have fulfilled responsibilities there, Buddha
will take it to mean you have reached the standard. Buddha doesn’t recognize
religion, but rather, only a person’s heart. Man established religion: Jesus
didn’t establish a religion during his time, and Shakyamuni didn’t establish a
religion during his time, either. Instead, they recognized only the heart that
the cultivator had. Of course, it’s even better for cultivators to have a
shared setting that fosters cultivation. That’s putting true cultivation until
reaching Consummation and Attainment Status as the highest priority. Isn’t
being attached to a setting or a religious society itself having intention?
Some people believe, “I’ve constructed X-many temples, and I’ve built X-number
of Buddha statues. So in the future I should be able to Consummate.” I’d say
you won’t reach Consummation. Among everyday people there are many who are
making Buddha statues as well, and it’s nothing more than just a job—that’s
having intention. All Fa with intention are as illusory as bubbles—that’s what
Buddha Shakyamuni said. [If] your mind isn’t truly elevating, and if an
everyday person’s head is full of thought karma, constantly manifesting bad
thoughts, then to place him where a Buddha is would be just like placing a pile
of trash before a God or Buddha—would that be acceptable? It absolutely wouldn’t.
So cultivation requires that everyone discard those filthy, bad things so as to
achieve a pure, clear body, a clean way of thinking, and a higher realm of
thinking. Only then can you go to that place. If you still can’t give up or let
go of those things that are so full of intention, wouldn’t that be foolish?!
Student: How many more years
will you continue to teach the Fa?
Teacher: All the way until
the Fa finishes rectifying the human world.
Student: Are the inner
meanings of “humans,” “mankind,” and “everyday people” in the book different?
Teacher: They are the same.
They’re just used in different contexts, but the inner meaning is the same.
Everyday people are just people, but in fact in higher realms, “people” include
celestial humans—meaning celestial humans in the Three Realms. “Mankind” refers
to people, and those who don’t practice cultivation are “everyday people.”
Student: When I enlighten
to some beyond-ordinary principles during the process of cultivation and don’t
know if they are correct, what should I do?
Teacher: Upon enlightening
to beyond-ordinary principles you will definitely have a feeling that it’s
sacred and a feeling that comes with the elevation of righteous thoughts that
are in compliance with Dafa’s Fa-principles. The Fa-principles at higher levels
can only be understood intuitively. The ancients talked about understanding
intuitively—one understands in his own mind but finds it very difficult to
express it through human language. When it’s spoken out loud, you discover that
it becomes plain and ordinary, just like everyday people’s principles. As soon
as it is expressed using human language, it loses its flavor. Why? It’s because
principles at high levels can only be expressed via thinking and language at
high levels, so students have even more reason not to display in front of
everyday people actions that are based on enlightenment at a higher level than
humans. Humans are just humans, and humans can’t understand principles and
actions that are at a higher level.
Follow the course of cultivation
while conforming to ordinary society to the maximum extent. The higher
Fa-principles that you have enlightened to signify your improvement in
cultivation, and it doesn’t mean you are supposed to display those states among
everyday people. When you understand Fa-principles on this side, the changes in
other dimensions are quite large, and the part of the body that is comprised of
microscopic particles undergoes intense changes. Also, at that level of the
Fa-principles everything is instantly understood.
Student: When I see
objects or beings in other dimensions during cultivation, how should I judge
whether they are good or bad?
Teacher: It’s very hard for
people who have just begun cultivation to judge, it’s not easy to make a clear distinction.
Also, there are many gods from high-level dimensions who have fled down here to
avoid Fa-rectification, and there are many gods in various dimensions inside
the Three Realms who don’t know about matters that are higher than their
realms, and so they too are in delusion to some degree. But their behavior
toward human beings is relatively benevolent. From a human perspective they are
benevolent. But they no longer meet the standard at the level of their realm.
It’s just that when humans see them, they appear to be more benevolent than
human beings. So it’s easy for this to cause a small number of students to
become confused and unclear when they have attachments. What should you do? I
have taught you to practice only one cultivation way. Whoever it is, don’t
communicate with him and don’t be moved no matter what you see. You can refrain
from talking to him, you can just not communicate with him at all and not even
look at him. That’s the only way to go. Avoid everything of his, and don’t
listen to anything he tells you. Perhaps he will flatter you in order to have
you listen to him. He may tell you what the winning lottery ticket number is
for tomorrow—he may very well act like that. Of course, such things are not by
chance, as they are tribulations in your cultivation, testing your human
attachments. So everyone must pay close attention to these issues. There won’t
be any problems as long as you are resolute about not interacting with them; at
this point it’s very hard for you to tell them apart.
Student: Do cultivators’ very
young children need to go see the doctor?
Teacher: People who don’t
do cultivation should see the doctor whenever necessary, since ordinary people
do need to see the doctor when they get sick. What I’m talking about here are
people who are genuine cultivators. Your bodies will all be transformed into
Buddha-bodies, and that’s something that cannot be achieved by doctors no
matter what treatment they administer. But among those who cultivate Dafa,
often there are many families who have children, and it’s very likely that they
are no ordinary children. Before reincarnating, the child knows—“This family
will study Dafa in the future. I want to reincarnate into this family”—in which
case it’s very likely that he might have an extraordinary background. With this
type of child, before the child is of the age that he can do the exercises
himself, performance of the exercises by you, the adult, will serve as doing
the exercises for the child. There are many cases like this, and this will be
up to you adults to judge and handle. If you can’t make out whether this is the
situation, then your taking him to the hospital isn’t considered wrong. But in
such matters your own heart will be looked at, as it will reveal various
thoughts and states of mind. Let’s put it this way: if you are a determined
Dafa cultivator, you will understand that each person has his own destiny, and
problems that are not supposed to happen won’t be allowed to just happen.
Usually the type of child I just talked about—who came from high levels—came to
obtain the Fa. They don’t have any karma, and they won’t have any health
problems. Everything that they endure may very well be borne for you, the
adult. There are many cases like that. But it’s not definite. You should appraise
and handle specific instances yourselves.
Student: Students from
Singapore send greetings to Teacher!
Teacher: Thank you
everyone! (Applause)
Student: Jiangsu province
disciples send greetings to Teacher!
Teacher: Thank you
everyone! (Applause)
Student: There are close to ten
thousand people who go and worship the Great Buddha statue at Ling Mountain in
Wuxi city, Jiangsu province. But it’s said that a spirit possesses the Great
Buddha, and the belly stores many urns containing ashes. Disciples have argued
endlessly about going there to spread the Fa, and we ask Master to give us some
direction.
Teacher: The Fa-spreading
is intended for people, not for a statue. Think about it, people have even put
urns with ashes into the belly of a Buddha: is that doing something good or
bad? Why would monks do something like that? It’s because the family members of
the deceased spent money. That monk, for the purpose of making money, would
even sell out the Buddha! Things are such a mess at present. When people are
worshipping Buddha, what are they actually worshipping? Worshipping those urns
containing ashes?! It’s really gotten to the point of being laughable. The
deceased will incur so much sin on account of what those people did, and their
family members and ancestors will all be implicated.
Student: I saw Falun and some
scenes, but after sharing the experience with our Falun Gong disciples, all of
the scenes and Falun disappeared immediately. Did I do something wrong?
Teacher: This needs to be
looked at from two angles. If you talk to others and you are overjoyed, then
they might disappear, not allowing you to see them anymore. That would happen
because the sacred scenes that you saw not only didn’t lead you to develop more
steadfast thoughts of cultivating Dafa, or more pure and clean thoughts, but
instead caused you to become overjoyed. In that case, of course you wouldn’t be
allowed to continue to see, as the responsibility to your cultivation has to be
fulfilled. If after you saw those things you didn’t have any overjoyed thoughts
or thoughts of showing off, and you felt that it was something real, and talked
about it with other students for the purpose of enabling them to firm up their
righteous thoughts, then that would be no problem at all. It’s not that talking
about these things isn’t allowed. The problem is talking with attachments.
Student: If we cultivate
very well, perhaps we will still be young when we reach Consummation. At that
point should we still continue to fulfill our responsibilities to family
members?
Teacher: If you don’t
remove this type of attachment there is absolutely no way to reach
Consummation. You are considering these things with ordinary human thoughts.
Let me tell all of you, I’m not just eliminating karma for you and watching over
you. If you cultivate to an Attainment Status, your paradise will be rich and
diverse, and I will do many, many things for you. I will need to resolve for
you the lives you owe to people from the past, the lives you have killed, and
all of the grievances and gratitude. There are many things that I will need to
do for you. If you are attached to problems like the one you raised, they will
become a big obstacle to the progress of your cultivation. Let go of those
human thoughts and just worry about cultivating. Before Consummation you need
to fulfill your responsibilities as a family member, to be sure.
Student: The Bible says
that Jesus got angry in the temple with those who charged high interest rates,
but Falun Dafa’s requirement is that we can’t get angry. If Jesus is a Buddha,
how are we to understand this?
Teacher: Jesus himself
didn’t write The Bible, and how humans have depicted Jesus’ actions is
definitely inaccurate. It’s quite possible that he would have had a slightly
colder, harsher tone toward those people who charged high interest rates. He is
someone who despises wickedness and who is very stern with those who do bad
things, but he wouldn’t truly get angry.
Student:
Disciples in Shanghai send greetings to Teacher and hope Teacher will visit
Shanghai!
Teacher: Thank you
everyone! (Applause)
Student: How can we do a
better job at understanding the manifestation at different levels of the “Great
Way without form”? When doing my work as an assistant, there are cases where
it’s difficult to reach a common understanding in Fa-spreading activities due
to the difference in levels among those in charge of the association and
assistants. So some students spend a great deal of time and energy in
discussion. This appears somewhat related to the students’ understandings.
Teacher: This is very
common. Many assistants in mainland China have become mature and are able to
first think whether they have shortcomings or not when encountering problems,
so they are basically cultivating in a healthy manner. But, there are
assistants in certain regions who have only studied the Fa for a short period
of time or who aren’t very diligent and are busying themselves doing the work.
So they like to argue when problems come up and they don’t search inward. When
you feel something is wrong, you need to think about whether there is something
wrong with yourself. Whether one can do this or not is the standard for
evaluating Dafa students. After discovering that there is nothing wrong with
your starting point, you should then bring up the matter with the other party
in a composed and friendly manner. If the two parties involved in the conflict
are able to handle themselves this way, how could there be any conflict? What
would there be to argue about? With that said, though, there will still be
arguments—and even very intense ones sometimes—in order to eliminate
attachments as you go about cultivating. That’s because you are cultivating and
still have attachments that you have not eliminated. There are times when you
don’t realize it and there are occasions when you have forgotten to search
inward. Being attached to certain attitudes and being attached to one’s notions
may both lead to arguments.
Student: How should we
understand the manifestation of the “Great Way without form” at different
levels?
Teacher: The form that Dafa
has adopted in today’s society is the “Great Way without form.” No form in
ordinary society is worthy of the spreading of Dafa. So I haven’t adopted any
form. If you want to come and learn it today, you can learn it. If you don’t
want to, then you’re free to leave. It’s up to you. Of course, if you truly
want to learn, we have to be responsible to you. Yet this type of being
responsible isn’t visible to everyday people; in this dimension of everyday
people, it’s formless. There are no offices. No money or possessions are kept.
Each of you is a member of ordinary society, and you are working or studying in
ordinary society and living in all kinds of settings. The only difference
between you and everyday people is that you are cultivating yourselves, and you
yourselves know that you are cultivators. Everyday people don’t cultivate and
sometimes can’t understand cultivators. It’s the same thing with students going
to the Office of the State Council at Zhongnanhai:[4]
“How was it all those people suddenly appeared out of nowhere and then vanished
just as fast?” [They could do that] because they are all members of the society
and there is no form. The only distinction was that they were cultivators. They
came from the general public, and went back to the general public after
expressing their opinions. There is no form of organization. Even though this
is truly the case, those people who are used to forming organizations, and the
general public, which is used to being organized, can’t understand it. They
think that you must be tightly organized. It’s really hard for today’s Chinese
people to understand the things that cultivators do. There are even some people
who don’t believe at all that there are so many people today who are being good
people.
Student:
People of the white race are left over from the previous civilization. Then
people of the yellow race and members of other races are…
Teacher: During the
previous cycle of civilization the continental plates were different from those
of today. But roughly speaking, people of the yellow race lived in the regions
of South America and North America. The Native Americans who live there at
present are classified as being of the yellow race. The people of the yellow
race who lived in the place where China is now—the most central place [where
they were] at that time was at Kazakhstan—after the Great Flood, they migrated
to the region that is the great desert of Xinjiang. At that time it was a land
of fertile soil. Later on they continually migrated eastward. Strictly
speaking, Indians, Egyptians, Persians, the yellow race, the white race, and
the black race are the six major races of the present Earth. All the other ones
are mixed races.
Student:
I feel that Master’s Fa-lectures are the answers to the mysteries in Zhuan
Falun and solve the mysteries. If I go listen to Master’s Fa-lectures at
various locations for an extended period of time like this, can this be
considered as my own enlightenment to Zhuan Falun?
Teacher: I’d like to share
a bit of truth with you. Human beings are not worthy of listening to my
Fa-lectures. (Applause) If it were only for the sake of teaching the Fa
to human beings, it would be enough for a Tathagata to come down to the human
world. As I am lecturing on the Fa, some people who are sitting in the audience
can see that there are living beings from layers upon layers of different
celestial bodies listening; I am not teaching the Fa to human beings alone.
That having been said, it is guaranteed that there are things left for you to
cultivate during the process of cultivation. You are worried that I have
expounded on the Fa so completely and explained it so clearly that there is
nothing left for you to cultivate, and that therefore it doesn’t count—is that what
you meant? That isn’t the case. There are things left for you to cultivate.
Student: Students in Urumqi,
Xinjiang, send greetings to Teacher!
Teacher: Thank you
everyone! (Applause)
Student: Isn’t it that whatever
one’s original Attainment Status was, that is the place that one can cultivate
to?
Teacher: That’s generally
the case for those who came from high levels. But do you know who you are? Did
you come from a high level? Even in the case of those who did come from high
levels, did they fall down because they committed sins? You have no idea where
you came from. Even with those who came down from above, after several thousand
years of reincarnation and the long passage of time, their karma is so great
that they have completely lost all of their original characteristics. It’s best
you don’t ask questions out of such strong human attachments.
Student: Could I ask you to
talk about yourself and your daily life?
Teacher: You are still an
everyday person right now, and the question that you raised is an everyday
person’s question. I don’t want to talk about myself. What I have given people
are these Fa-principles. You should just treat me as an ordinary human being.
I’m just a human being with a complete human image who is talking to you here,
using the human language. As to how much power I have, I won’t demonstrate it
and you won’t be able to see it. But as long as you cultivate, I will be
responsible to you—I am able to take on that responsibility. Our students have
also come to understand this through real-life experiences, and I don’t need to
talk more about it. The people of the future won’t know about my existence. If
all of the students today are able to Consummate, then I haven’t taught the Fa
to human beings but instead to gods. The people who don’t cultivate won’t know
anything after going through another life and another reincarnation. The people
of the future won’t be allowed to know about me. What will be left are no more
than legends. So, I don’t want to leave anything behind for humans. I don’t
want to talk about the story of my life or how I’m such and such way, and I
don’t want others to write about me. My disciples will know about me in the
future. After Consummation they will know clearly what I’m all about. (Applause)
Student: All the New Zealand
students send greetings to the revered Master!
Teacher: Thank you
everyone! (Applause)
Student:
There is a significant gap between my understanding of Fa-principles and the
improvement of my xinxing. My understanding of the Fa-principles has always
been ahead and at a relatively high realm. But while genuinely cultivating, my
xinxing improvement has always lagged behind and sometimes it’s quite lacking.
I’m afraid that the principles that I have enlightened to under such a state
might be wrong.
Teacher: As a matter
of fact, since you can recognize this, you have cultivated quite well. Everyday
people aren’t able to see their mistakes, while you can see the differences in
the various states of your cultivation. Actually it isn’t what you imagined it
to be. On the understanding of the Fa-principles, it’s usually easy to be
clear. But, if all the various attachments that a person has to self-interest
and emotion as he faces the realities that exist in society, if they could be
instantly eliminated once you comprehend the Fa-principles, there would be no
need for cultivation and there would be no tests to pass. When you are attached
to something and try to find an excuse in the Fa, it’s bound to be wrong. Study
the Fa without any pursuit, and what you come to understand is bound to be the
right enlightenment.
Student: Students in Beijing
and the United States send greetings to Master!
Teacher: Thank you
everyone! (Applause)
Student:
During my cultivation, lust-karma sometimes comes about. How can I eliminate
it?
Teacher: Things that
you encounter in your dreams are various types of tests for you. They are to
see whether your heart has been cultivated solidly during your everyday
cultivation and whether you can pass this test well. It’s a test to see whether
you can pass this test and whether you have cultivated solidly. That’s because
only then will your true state be displayed, as all of your wishes to cover up
and hide things are asleep at that time. If you haven’t done well, you should
take the matter seriously since, after all, you haven’t done well. If you have
cultivated well in your daily life, you will for sure do well in your dreams
and be able to pass the test.
Student:
When encountering problems or reflecting on problems, I find that my thoughts
are always centered around myself being such and such. It seems that there is a
root that just can’t be eliminated and I’m very upset by it. Why is it that I’m
unable to maintain a state of righteous awareness?
Teacher: Excellent! I see
your desire to eliminate it. That’s exactly what cultivation is. As to
eliminating your own selfish heart—that root—it takes a process, for it
developed over the course of a large portion of your lifetime. I believe that
you will definitely manage to eliminate it during your cultivation, that
fundamental thing behind selfishness. You are able to recognize all of these
things and are able to concentrate on eliminating it during cultivation. This
is very good, and it is exactly what cultivation is!
Student:
I always feel that I’m not diligent, unable to endure suffering, and lacking in
perseverance. Is there any way to strengthen my ability to endure suffering?
Teacher: Read the book
more, and gradually you will strengthen your determination in cultivation; then
you will be able to overcome all things. There is no shortcut, and cultivation
has to be conducted this way. You are able to recognize all of these things,
and that’s quite good. You are able to recognize all of these things, and
that’s something that everyday people can’t do. As a matter of fact, your being
unhappy with yourself shows that you are cultivating, and your ability will
gradually increase.
Student:
When I heard all the erroneous reports that the media outside of China have
made about Master and Falun Dafa, even though I did certain things to safeguard
Dafa, in my heart I have felt that their actions aren’t worth paying any heed.
Is my thinking correct?
Teacher: When other people
attack Dafa, if you feel that they’re not attacking you, then you are not a member
of Dafa. Why is it that so many people went to Beijing to petition the State
Council at Zhongnanhai? It felt to them as if the affair in Tianjin city[5]
targeted them. They felt that when the police were arresting Dafa disciples, it
was the same as they themselves being arrested. That’s because they are all
cultivating members and everyone is cultivating the same Fa. Regarding the
persecution of the Tianjin students, shouldn’t our other students have reported
the situation to the relevant agencies, with good intentions? As to the
incorrect media reports, tell them that those are inaccurate and tell them our
true situation. You can’t just idly watch the malicious persecution of Dafa and
do nothing. [Their] hurting people’s chances of obtaining the Fa is a big deal.
Because media reports can be copied from one another, once one makes a report,
other newspapers can copy it. Your own, real life experience is much more
persuasive than that. If you say that I, Li Hongzhi, am good, I won’t pay it
any heed. If you say that I’m bad, I won’t pay it any heed either. Everyday
people can’t affect me. But for you, who are students, safeguarding Dafa is
something that you should do. But you can’t use your bad side and fight with
them. You should tell them the true situation with a compassionate heart, and
that is precisely safeguarding the Fa.
Student: All disciples in
Shenzhen city send greetings to Master!
Teacher: Thank you
everyone! (Applause)
Student:
(1) Could you please tell us whether the Law Bodies of the Seven Primordial
Buddhas at Fengguo Temple represent their ultimate levels or their levels
during cultivation?
Teacher: Well, they are
Buddhas, they’re already Buddhas, so there is no issue of cultivation or
levels. Why did you ask about this? This isn’t something of Dafa and it has
nothing to do with improving through cultivation.
Student:
(2) Are the Seven Primordial Buddhas the primordial lives that you spoke of?
Teacher: Their titles
are just the kind of special titles that those Buddhas have. When they are called
“primordial,” it refers to how long that title has existed, and as things
change it may not refer to the first primordial beings anymore. At different
levels and in different realms there are different understandings of
“primordial.” It seems that to human beings anything that goes beyond this
history of human civilization or has a history of several thousand years is
considered primordial. But in the eyes of Buddhas, that’s only an instant. To
high-level beings, they are not that primordial.
Student: (3) Why do the statues
of Buddha Shakyamuni face west?
Teacher: You’re cultivating
Buddhism, aren’t you? And so you want to ask me things about Buddha. I’m
teaching Dafa, which has no relationship to Buddhism. Your sitting here today
is your predestined relationship, however, and I can answer your question.
Temples are built facing all directions. Some are built facing east, some are
built facing west, and some are built facing south. Whatever direction its
great hall faces is sure to be the direction that the Buddha statue faces.
Things like this don’t indicate much and are all human doing. Buddha is real
and a magnificent enlightened being, while what you were referring to is that
large statue made of mud. If a person wants to cultivate Buddhahood, he should
concentrate on truly improving himself, as anything filled with intent or
attachment to Buddhism itself isn’t cultivation but instead an obstacle.
Student:
Are Zhen, Shan, and Ren super-matter? Are they primordial beings? Or are they
super- primordial beings?
Teacher: Buddhism again.
Since you’ve come in here, it is your predestined relationship, and so I still
want to answer your question. Zhen, Shan, Ren is the special quality of the
entire cosmos, and the Fa of the cosmos comes from Zhen, Shan, Ren. The lower
it goes, the more complicated the Fa becomes, and the more and the greater its
requirements become, just like a pyramid. This Dafa has created environments of
existence at different levels for all sentient beings in the cosmos, and
created Buddhas, Daos, Gods, and humans at different levels as well as demons
and other sentient beings, including those of heaven and earth, and all matter.
This cosmos is so complicated that it can’t be described clearly with human
language. Moreover, it has other different states of being, which provide all
sentient beings with elements of existence at different levels, such as
mutual-generation and mutual-inhibition, Yin and Yang, and so on—many, many
things. They all come from this Dafa of the cosmos. (Applause)
Student:
Before the conference, I called the contact people to get more information
about the requirements for attending the conference. The person who answered
the phone asked me if I’m a Falun Gong disciple, and I didn’t know how to reply
at that time because I have been learning it on my own for a year now. Teacher
Li, please tell me if I can be considered your disciple.
Teacher: If you are truly
learning it, then you are one, regardless of whether you are learning by
yourself. (Applause) Haven’t the changes that you’ve gone through and
the hints that I have given you in your daily life already told you this? Since
you don’t have the environment where you cultivate together with everyone,
there are many things that you haven’t enlightened to. But that doesn’t mean
that you have not cultivated. You should do the exercises with other students
more, as that will help you to improve even faster.
Student:
Master has said that since 1992, all of the gods from various religions stopped
overseeing affairs of the human world. I have poor enlightenment quality and
haven’t understood what you meant. Master, please explain a little bit.
Teacher: I’ve talked about
this issue in various Fa-lectures. When I came to teach you the Fa this time,
it wasn’t simply for the sake of saving human beings. This is the
Fa-rectification of the cosmos, which is related to humankind. That is to say,
even those gods who you used to worship are repositioning themselves during
this Fa-rectification, and even more so is that the case for human beings. How
could they still oversee the affairs of humankind?
Student: Dafa disciples
from the cities of Hefei in Anhui province, Shenyang, and Yanbian send
greetings to Teacher!
Teacher: Thank you
everyone! (Applause)
Student:
A person was saying bad things about Dafa and I started to argue with him. Is
it true that I did not follow the Ren of Dafa’s Zhen, Shan, Ren? Does arguing
with people count as an attachment?
Teacher: You should reason
with him and talk to him with a benevolent heart and compassion. If he truly
doesn’t want to listen, then just let it go. As a matter of fact, you haven’t
realized that when you talk to him about the principles of Dafa, you are
talking to him about the Fa and spreading the Fa to him, and you are helping
him and offering him salvation! Whether he wants to listen to it or not is his
choice. Why would you want to argue with him? It will be more effective if you
handle all of these things with compassion.
Student:
While studying the Fa, sometimes I enlighten to a principle of the Fa. But as
soon as I want to verbalize it, I feel that this understanding is no longer
correct. This feeling is becoming more and more obvious.
Teacher: Right! I just
talked about that, didn’t I? You can only understand it intuitively and can’t
describe it with words. As soon as you use human language to say it out loud,
it drops down and becomes a principle that’s on the same plane as everyday
people.
Student: Among cultivators, is
there a larger percentage of females than males?
Teacher: It appears that
today’s females can understand Dafa faster, and this is truly a good thing.
Student:
I originally liked kids a lot and really wanted to have some. But after getting
to know Dafa, I realized how low humankind’s level is and how degenerate human
morality is. Then what point is there in having kids and letting such innocent
hearts and souls become polluted?
Teacher: Let me tell you
that it isn’t you who creates life, but rather, it is that a being enters the
human womb and reincarnates. Whatever karma he may have is something he carries
himself. If he weren’t born through you, then he would be born through someone
else just the same. As you are a Dafa student, why would you still be afraid of
your kids becoming polluted?
Student:
I’m a kindergarten teacher who works with minorities. My job is to visit
different kindergartens to teach Chinese culture and tradition. I really want
to teach Teacher’s five exercises to the children. Am I allowed to do this?
Teacher: That’s very good.
As a matter of fact, in certain regions everyone—from the head of the
kindergartens to the teachers—is practicing and the children there are too.
Children don’t have attachments. When they sit there, wow! It’s so good—truly
pure and magnificent. Of course doing what you described is a good thing.
Educating children with the principles of Dafa will bring them endless benefits
throughout their lives.
Student:
Some people are sincerely practicing Christianity, Buddhism, etc, and don’t
have the chance to obtain Falun Dafa. Will they have a way out?
Teacher: Before I began to
do this, their gods explicitly revealed to those of their people who could
truly be saved that I would do this. Some people believed it and some people
didn’t. I don’t look at what kind of religion it is or how high a person’s
official rank is. I don’t pay attention to who someone is: I only look at the
person’s heart. Standing before me, anyone is a human being first, and I only
look at people’s hearts. If you don’t want to cultivate, I won’t do anything. If
you do want to, I offer you salvation. That’s how it is! I don’t attach
importance to any formality, and I don’t look at a person’s official rank or
what [religion] he believes in. (Applause)
Student:
I’ve been cultivating Dafa for several years. In the last few months, while
sharing experiences with everyone, I have seen that certain disciples talk on
endlessly, and it has made me have less and less of a desire to speak. Master,
please tell me if my state is correct.
Teacher: If they kept on
talking endlessly, and the more they talked, the less you wanted to listen and
the more restless you felt, then it means you have an attachment! And the more
he kept talking, the more it seemed that no end was in sight. That was actually
aimed at you, even though he wasn’t talking to you directly. (Applause)
It was to expose your attachments. In fact, your attachments have been exposed.
It’s just that you were trying to cover it up by saying that the other person
went on endlessly. Haven’t I told you that you should look at yourself no
matter what you encounter? Wasn’t it a certain attachment of yours surfacing?
Since you are cultivators and extraordinary people, why do you still see the
bad things in ordinary people and compare yourselves with them? Even though he is
a cultivator, he’s still cultivating among everyday people, and he still has
attachments that he hasn’t eliminated and still displays behavior of everyday
people. If he didn’t have those things, wouldn’t he be a Buddha? Wouldn’t he be
a god? Isn’t that true? So once this or that problem occurs among our students,
you just think about why the other person has cultivated so poorly, and you
don’t want to look at yourself. I have told everyone in my Fa lectures that
when a conflict arises between two people and it’s seen by a third person, even
the third person should think to himself, “Oh, a confrontation is happening
between them, so why is it that I was there to see it? Is it because I have
certain attachments? Is it because I have that kind of problem as well?” Since
you are cultivating, you need to be truly responsible to yourself and need to
look at yourself. Another thing is, I want to mention that at group Fa study
sessions some students go on and on about things that aren’t related to Dafa or
cultivation, and this is interfering with our students and their cultivation.
You need to pay special attention to this, and should point it out clearly to
those who are doing that.
Student:
When seeing the selfish side of cultivators, I feel so bad.
Teacher: Then you have
another attachment. It should be that nobody can affect the heart of a
cultivator. When you see his selfishness being displayed, it’s possible that it
is displayed to have you talk to him and help him become aware of it and
eliminate it. If you are affected by his selfishness and upset by it, how could
it be that you don’t have any attachment? Isn’t that right?
Student:
Why is it that once one breeds demons in one’s own mind, he will drop all the
way to the bottom and won’t be able to cultivate again?
Teacher: I was giving a
type of description. If the breeding of demons in one’s mind gets to the extent
that it can’t be turned around, he will drop all the way to the bottom. If he
is able to realize what happened, then there is still room to salvage the
situation. I was telling everyone, based on the Fa-principles, about the danger
of breeding demons in one’s own mind.
Student:
Can cultivators improve the education system and make it easier for the people
in society to accept Dafa?
Teacher: There are many
students who feel that Dafa is very good, is able to change all hearts, and is
able to make society truly achieve the best state, one with a high moral
standard. Thus many students and everyday people who don’t cultivate think that
if it could be broadly accepted by people throughout society and lead more
people to behave this way, how wonderful society would become! In reality, your
mind is still on ordinary human society. I can only put it like that to you,
for your understanding of the Fa isn’t that deep yet, and you haven’t quite
grasped that this Fa I am teaching is not for the sake of achieving something
or other in ordinary human society; rather, it is for the sake of teaching the
Fa to cultivators and allowing cultivators to be saved. Ordinary human society
is just what it is. If there were truly some high-ranking officials among
everyday people who used the benevolent Fa-principles of Dafa to change the
moral standard in society, which is degenerating daily, then that would be a
display of people’s good hearts, and I wouldn’t be against it. That’s because
he would be spreading Dafa for the good of the people, so that’s how it is.
Those are things of everyday people, and things that will happen in the next
stage when the Fa rectifies the human world.
Student: All the students in
Taiwan send their greetings to you!
Teacher: Thank you
everyone! (Applause)
Student:
I have several questions to ask you. Does the level of a person’s ability come
with his primordial spirit at birth, or is it arranged based on his virtue and
karma?
Teacher: There are two
types of the ability that you spoke of. The first is the so-called cleverness
of everyday people, and this is no good at all for the process of cultivation;
instead it is a serious impediment. Another type is the display of abilities
that are beyond those of ordinary people during cultivation. They are due to
some prenatal as well as postnatal elements. But in cultivation these are not
the standards that are used to judge one’s level. In order to judge a person’s
ability to cultivate and understand the Fa, one has to look at one’s
foundation. A person’s original nature is buried over the course of the long
years involved in lifetimes of reincarnation. How much a person’s original
nature can peek through is how good that person’s foundation and capacity to
awaken are.
Student:
The solemn images of Buddhas, Daos, and Gods portrayed in sculptures and
paintings in various places all over the world were left behind from the past.
How did they manage to remain in the human world?
Teacher: You’re asking how
people knew about the image of the Buddha. There are very big differences
between humans who live in periods of time when the morality of humankind is
quite good and humans who live in periods of time when the human morality is
bad. The higher the moral standard of the human society is, the more gods
display the truth of the universe to people, and that is something brought
about by the state of society as a whole. Then, today’s society isn’t good
because what today’s society worships is science and not gods, and that’s why
people can see less and less. In addition, this science was created for human
beings by aliens, who are also beings in this dimension. It’s only that they
are beings from other planets. Many of those large paintings in the Louvre in
France depict divine things. The depictions are quite realistic. I have seen
the paintings and that’s indeed what it’s like there. But they were left behind
from a time when Christianity was at its peak. In other words, they were
inherited from a time when man’s moral standard was at its best and people
believed in gods the most. There were many artists who were also devoted
Christians. So gods would display things to them, and they would be able to see
them. You all know how artists are great at instantly committing images to
memory. After they saw those scenes of gods they were able to paint them. I
feel that they painted them very close to reality, in a very real way, and that
they are truly what it’s like. After viewing large paintings like those, many
people start to feel an air of holiness and reverence—the type of reverence for
majestic gods. It was in the same fashion that images of Buddhas were left
behind to humankind.
Student:
Matter formed through cultivating to Consummation is precious to those at
higher levels. Is that about returning to one’s original, true self plus the
process of cultivation?
Teacher: It’s not like the
connection you made at all, as your process of cultivation is in fact about
returning to your original, true self. “Matter formed through cultivating to
Consummation is precious to those at higher levels”—that doesn’t make sense. It
might not be precious to those higher gods that are beyond the realm at which
you Consummate. And even higher gods think of it as dirt. In fact, whatever in
this universe isn’t good gets dumped here into this human society.
Student: Can Christians
cultivate in Dafa?
Teacher: I just said these
words: I said that gods don’t attach any importance to any religions in the
least, for those are something brought about by man. When Jesus was in this
world there was no church, and there was no religion of Christianity. And when
Shakyamuni was in this world there was no temple, as those were brought about
by man. When Shakyamuni was in this world there were no scriptures, and when
Jesus was in this world there was likewise no Bible. People wrote those later
on by recalling what had been said earlier.
Buddhas and Gods don’t place any
importance on the forms that people come up with, so what’s the point of caring
what form you adopt? Religion isn’t a bad thing for mankind, but if people
become attached to the form itself, then they are not earnest disciples of Gods
or Buddhas. As you know, during the Cultural Revolution those temples were all
demolished. Why didn’t Buddhas intervene at the time? Well, why would they
intervene? All kinds of people went to those temples, asking for all kinds of
things. Those people who ask things from Buddha are not cultivating. The aim of
their worshipping Buddha is to get Buddha’s blessing so as to have a son, get
rich, or to be blessed in having disasters and calamities averted. Is Buddha
there to do that for you? Buddha is there to fundamentally take care of all
sentient beings’ salvation and to save you to the heavens; but instead, you
seek comfort among everyday people. So for Buddhas, that kind of attachment of
asking for things from Buddha is the worst attachment, an attachment that makes
Buddha feel terrible. People don’t know what they’re doing. They treat Buddhas
with human emotions, thinking: “I say that you Buddhas and Bodhisattvas are
wonderful, full of mercy and compassion. So Buddhas and Bodhisattvas will have
to fulfill my wishes. I say that you, this Buddha, are great, so the Buddha
must be happy.” People think Buddhas feel happy with a few words like that.
People think that humans’ hearts can affect a Buddha’s heart. They think a few
compliments will make Buddhas happy—how laughable. When someone like that is
there worshipping the Buddha statue, can that Buddha stay there? That Buddha
grows irritated listening to it, and is long gone. And since no Buddha is there
on the statue, wicked spirits who bring disorder to the world then come to
demand incense. So what are the people worshipping then? Think about it
everyone, what would be the point of keeping that temple? If people didn’t
demolish it, the Buddhas themselves would strike it down with a thunderbolt.
Isn’t that the idea? So gods only look at people’s hearts. If your heart doesn’t
reach the standard for cultivation, what’s the point in your defending Buddhism
or some other religion? It was human beings that created those things. So, what
you defend is religion, and you are attached to religion itself. You say, “If I
have safeguarded that religion, then I can become a Buddha, I can become a God,
and I can go to heaven.” But isn’t that a joke?
Student:
Is Christianity not much different from Falun Dafa, there just being a
difference between East and West?
Teacher: The difference is
huge, Falun Dafa is the Fa that created the cosmos, including all sentient
beings, including humans and gods, heavens and earth, and all things and
objects. All gods were created by the Dafa of the cosmos. You should take a
look at the book Zhuan Falun. In that book I have explained these issues
clearly. You can read the book, as there is an English edition of Zhuan
Falun.
Student:
I have a question that I hope you can please answer. I have been cultivating,
and in a period of over three years I have easily passed the tribulations, but
only last year did tests begin to appear. There has been blood in my stool for
several months. Why is that the case? Now it has affected my health. Can I
improve in cultivation like this?
Teacher: Perhaps you have
all realized that there is a problem with the question being posed. You want it
to be uneventful just like those three years, but is that how cultivation goes?
Were you truly diligent those three years? Have you truly regarded yourself as
a cultivator? Have you met the standard? Sometimes in your heart you consider
family matters more important than the Fa, what’s on your mind is making money
and being attached to affection for family, all of those are given more
importance than the Fa, and you don’t want to eliminate your own karma or
endure any hardship. Is that a genuinely cultivating disciple? Even after ten
years of cultivating like that nothing would change. When I begin to truly take
you higher, and begin to cleanse your body, blood clots, waste blood, and bad
things from before are expelled. But right away you take it to mean your body
has problems. You aren’t able to keep steadfast, righteous thoughts, not
believing that it is Master cleansing you during cultivation. Cultivation is
such a solemn matter, and yet you take it to be illness. How do I see this
issue? Is that passing the test? Your heart is still not firm and steady.
Originally it was a good thing—cleaning out your body for you. Who would do
this type of thing for you? Wasn’t it given to you because you wanted to
cultivate? When faced with this problem, you fail to understand it correctly,
still cultivate slowly like that, and are unable to advance diligently. When
you can’t understand these from the standpoint of the Fa, then this process in
which your body gets cleansed is drawn out, and it doesn’t go away for a long
time, lingering on for several months. Then your thoughts get even less steady,
and the ordeal seems greater as more time goes by, and it’s even harder to
pass. You think, “Why has it lasted such a long time, and still can’t be
passed?” The thoughts begin to waver: “Is this cultivation way not effective?
Is Teacher not taking care of me? What’s going on?” It has already affected
your health. On this issue you haven’t viewed yourself as a cultivator.
With many specific problems I
normally would rather not tell you about them. But think about it, after
cultivating Dafa many people have recovered from whatever terminal illnesses
they had, even patients in critical condition. They didn’t have attachments,
and so they were diligently making progress and not thinking about their health
problems at all. “The hospital has already handed down a death sentence, why
would I fear death? Today I’ve obtained Dafa. I’ll cultivate! However far I can
get is fine, I’ll cultivate with all my effort! Time to practice!”
Imperceptibly their illnesses have all disappeared, for they did not have any
attachment to it. Yet there are also some who contracted serious illnesses,
including patients with terminal illnesses, and they did pass away. Why was
that? Because they came entirely for healing, and when practicing they couldn’t
let go of their own attachment. They thought: “By practicing Falun Gong so and
so recovered from a terminal illness. I too can recover by practicing it! I’ve
come to practice, so this teacher will take care of me as well!” They’re
thinking: “As long as I read the book, as long as I do the exercises, Teacher
will definitely heal me.” So you see, their minds are ever so slightly off. So
they would still be thinking: “Teacher will definitely heal me.” On the surface
they were cultivating and reading the book like everyone else, but weren’t they
reading it for the sake of that ailment? I have to look at them in terms of
their fundamental nature! Cultivation is solemn. Are you trying to deceive
Buddha? Are you trying to deceive Master? You’re only deceiving yourself.
Without changing on a fundamental level, can it count as genuinely cultivating?
Why is it that students may be tested in their dreams? When all of your
intentions that can conceal your [attachments] are asleep, we will then take a
look at what your state is. You have to truly reach the standard of a
cultivator—isn’t that the principle? You have learned Dafa now, yet you are not
making diligent progress. By all means don’t miss the chance. There are so many
people who can’t even obtain the Fa.
Student:
Why is it that whenever I participate in group practice, my spouse feels very
bad?
Teacher: It’s caused by
your karma. Upon taking up cultivation, how could you just be cleared of the
many debts you accumulated over your past lives and become a god with ease?
What kind of god would that be? Creating karma yet not having to be accountable
for it—how could that be allowed! When a god looks at a person’s existence, he
doesn’t look at one lifetime of that person. Reincarnating one life after
another is just like going through one day after another. You’re not allowed to
just get up one morning after a night’s sleep and say that you don’t acknowledge
what you did yesterday. Isn’t this so? Gods look at your existence as a whole,
and whatever you did in any given time period will be looked at.
Student: How does a person
increase his tolerance level?
Teacher: During your
cultivation it will naturally expand, as this is not something that you can
will. The more attachments that are let go, the bigger one’s heart becomes and
the greater one’s tolerance.
Student:
I dreamt that Master mailed me four drinking glasses, but only one arrived
fully intact. The next day I dreamt that I had four daughters, but only one
survived. Fellow practitioners came to the understanding that perhaps I only
received one fourth of what Master has given. Is that right?
Teacher: It was given to
you to enlighten to, so I can’t disclose it. If I disclosed it, then wouldn’t
that be giving it to myself to figure out?
Student:
After reaching the realm and level of a Buddha, are there still a primordial
spirit and an assistant spirit?
Teacher: At that point
there are none. Haven’t I indicated in Zhuan Falun that after reaching
Consummation the assistant spirit can only exist as a guardian of the Fa or in
some other form?
Student:
China is a good environment for cultivation. Will the results of cultivation be
affected after residing in Australia for a while?
Teacher: They won’t be. As
long as you cultivate, it is the same everywhere.
Student:
When I sit in meditation for one hour, usually I feel like it takes a long
time, and I have to finish it in pain. But I have found that at the times when
I am eliminating karma and I meditate, time passes extremely quickly. It’s over
in an instant it seems, and the feeling is different. Is this situation
correct?
Teacher: These are all
states that manifest when doing the exercises, and their occurrence is quite
natural.
Student:
If I meditate at times when I am eliminating karma, will both sides eliminate
karma?
Teacher: What two sides?
The side that has cultivated well won’t feel pain, and as for the body’s legs,
they will of course be in pain. After sitting for a long time, not only will
your legs hurt: there is also pain and numbness in the back, feeling restless,
and feeling nauseated. That’s how suffering physically and mentally is! The
pain in the legs is merely something to endure on the physical level, and while
you meditate, you will also have [to deal with] things that cause you to grow
restless! At that point you want to take the legs down. Many of our
practitioners feel these things. Suffering does indeed eliminate karma.
Student:
I feel very fortunate to be able to see you in person, and now I have a
question. You talked about practicing only one cultivation way. If in the
course of everyday life I read Buddhist scriptures and books, I think that for
some low-level students such as myself, it should be beneficial. We can slowly
reach the standard, because Buddhism is also the Buddha Fa. Is that right?
Teacher: Your thinking is
not correct, for Dafa and Buddhism are not the same thing. You should read Zhuan
Falun more. I truly want to say a lot to you. And what you want to know is
a lot, but I don’t have enough time today. Here I am discussing with my
cultivating disciples problems that they have encountered while cultivating at
their different levels. If you want to cultivate, then read the book some. Read
Zhuan Falun, and then you can decide. You can decide for yourself
whether to cultivate or to read your Buddhist scriptures. Dafa is different
from all religions.
Student:
Seeing you, I feel very emotional and become speechless. I want to say
something but don’t know what to say. When that’s the case, is it that my main
consciousness is unclear, or is it that the human emotion I have is too strong?
Teacher: Neither is the
case. When many students—not just you— see me, they have nothing to say. It’s
because at that time, the part of you that has cultivated well becomes alert.
The side that has cultivated well knows everything about the Fa-principles at
that realm, so upon seeing me there is nothing to ask. Master has done so much
for everyone, and the side of you that is aware knows. On the surface I’m just
expounding on the Fa-principles for you, but your true improvements in other
areas, as well as eliminating karma for you and the many things that have been
done for you—a part of you can see them. That’s why upon seeing me you just
want to cry, yet the side of you that hasn’t cultivated well doesn’t know the
reason for the crying. That’s the situation. This is because you know there is
no way to describe these things that Master has done for you. In this
unsalvageable, chaotic world, at a time when human morality is declining
rapidly, I help you to eliminate karma and give you so many things. If I didn’t
give you this opportunity, nobody would. So that side of you has seen this.
That’s what this state is. (Applause)
Student:
I’d like to ask, how do I know that I have obtained the Fa? In the past I had
diabetes and high cholesterol, and after cultivating in Falun Gong all is well.
Does this mean that I have already obtained the Fa?
Teacher: Doesn’t that mean
you are being taken care of? Cultivation practice always entails first
adjusting the body until it is well, and then entering the phase of formal
cultivation. You are already experiencing changes. Had I not taken care of you,
those changes would not have happened. Isn’t that an example of changes taking
place under the Fa, then? You should just read the book a lot, study the Fa a
lot, and progress diligently.
Student:
In cultivation, are we allowed to recite the exercise formulas while doing the
exercises?
Teacher: Recite the
formulas before doing the exercises. During the exercises it isn’t necessary to
recite them, and it’s best not to think of anything at all. That’s best.
Student: Can those students who
have just now entered cultivation Consummate alongside the disciples who have
cultivated for several years? There are some older people whose literacy level
is limited, and there are some factors of their own, especially having a poor
ability to understand the Fa. How should we view their cultivating to
Consummation?
Teacher: Don’t
underestimate the older generation, as it all depends on the person’s own
degree of diligence, and you can’t look at one’s age like that. Once I have you
obtain the Fa, I will always give you plenty of time. But if you can’t be
diligent, if you aren’t able to regard yourself as a cultivator, then
everything is in vain. I give you plenty of time. It’s plenty of time for you
to be diligent, not time for you to half-heartedly cultivate.
Student:
Three days after my child was born, I saw an older foreigner wearing black
clothing and a top hat, covering the child with a blanket. Everyone in our
family is a Dafa cultivator, so it should have been Teacher’s Law Body and not
that older foreigner. I don’t understand, so may I ask Master to explain this a
bit?
Teacher: I have different
images at different levels, and I have different paradises at different levels.
Also, as for where the child came from to obtain the Fa, or whether he has a
divine being following and watching over him, I can’t tell you any of this.
Just go ahead and cultivate. After seeing such things one should be even more
diligent.
Student:
We hope very much that those disciples of the white race who have benefited
from Dafa can step forward proactively to introduce Dafa to fellow members of
their ethnicity.
Teacher: Every Dafa
disciple, whether he is white, Chinese, or someone of another ethnicity, knows
what they should do during cultivation.
Student:
After arriving in Australia it took me four months to find a practice site. All
of the students look familiar, yet I have never met them before. At the
experience sharing conference, all of the Dafa cultivators I’ve seen look as if
I have met them before and they don’t seem unfamiliar at all. Why is that so?
Teacher: Of course that’s
the case. Our Dafa disciples are all cultivating the same Fa, all cultivating
in Dafa. The sides that have cultivated well all know each other very well, and
among yourselves, perhaps you knew each other from some other lifetime.
Student:
My brain is often blank, but often some people ask me, “You say Falun Gong is
good, so why can’t you remember anything?”
Teacher: That’s because the
side that has cultivated well, the side that has been cultivated to a state of
clarity, has been blocked off, while the side that is unclear is always the
side that hasn’t cultivated well. Don’t let the things that interfere with you
exert an effect again.
Student:
Ever since childhood I have felt self-pity. Is self-pity also an attachment
that should be removed?
Teacher: Correct. Get rid
of it, as today you are the luckiest being in the cosmos. You are a Dafa
student, and even gods in the heavens envy you. So what’s there for you to feel
self-pity about?
* * *
* *
Our two-day conference is about to
conclude. I think that through this two-day Fa conference everyone has made
improvements. Also, this Fa conference was a complete success and very good,
achieving the intended result. This Fa conference has enabled each student to find
where they fall short, and in later cultivation, they will each continue
advancing diligently, building up their confidence in cultivation, and making
this Fa Conference truly live up to its purpose. That’s the goal of holding the
conference. I also hope that the Fa conference will serve as an inspiration and
that you will be responsible to yourselves in cultivation from now on. There
are quite a number of new students sitting here, and there are some who don’t
have much understanding of Dafa. Since you have come in and seen all of this, I
hope that you will get a copy of the book and learn about it. [Think about it,]
why are so many people studying it, and why are so many people cultivating?
Perhaps you experienced a harmonious atmosphere here in this setting of ours.
Right now a person can’t find anything like this, whatever the circumstance or
place he may be in.
While doing this I have taken into
consideration being responsible to people and to society, and all the less so
have we caused trouble for society. No matter what region our students live in,
they are good people. Whenever we meet with any trouble or any difficulty, we
have to use a benevolent heart and compassion to talk to other people, and it
is absolutely not allowed for your bad side to play any role.
This Fa conference is about to
conclude, and I hope that all of you will be more diligent from now on. After
this Fa conference there will be even more students studying the Fa, building
on the past and gaining inspiration for the future, and I think all of you will
be able to do well. Finally, I hope that all of you will constantly improve and
soon reach Consummation! (Applause)
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[1]
Translator’s note: The Chinese term for “illness” here could encompass a wide
range of health problems, including an aching back, arthritis, vision problems,
etc.
[2]
Translator’s note: It is generally believed that the Spring and Autumn Warring
States Period lasted from 770 BC to 221 BC, and that the Period of Three
Emperors and Five Kings lasted from 3000 BC to 2000 BC. Confucius is believed
to have been born in 551 BC and died in 479 BC.
[3]
Translator’s note: The Chinese words here are somewhat more general than the
English ones.
[4]
Translator’s note: This refers to the effort made on April 25, 1999, by Falun
Gong practitioners to petition Chinese authorities.
[5]
Translator’s note: This refers to the first case of Chinese police beating and
arresting practitioners unlawfully not long before the gathering on April 25.